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No, but I can use contextual clues like other accolades to extrapolate from my own experience with that person here (like being a Nobel laureate, for example).

No, but I can use contextual clues like other accolades to extrapolate from my own experience with that person here (like being a Nobel laureate, for example). To your point though, more like one in 100 million I suppose if I’m to be more accurate.

TheCoelacanth 4y ago
I would doubt that even most Nobel laureates would qualify as 1 in 100 million. There are nearly 1000 living Nobel laureates out of 7.7 billion, so the rarest they could possibly be is about 1 in 8 million. Additionally, Nobel Prizes only cover a handful of fields out of hundreds of possible fields people could work in. I would put it at more like 1 in 100,000 or 1 in a million.
deltasevennine 4y ago
So you're surrounded by Nobel laureates and that is a factor in your judgement? Did these laureates gain the prize through productivity and intelligence? Does it prove you're not in a bubble and that your experience is broad enough to validate your suspicion? From my view point it really depends on if the Nobel laureate won the prize for IQ or productivity; or whether the category has any relation to the two aforementioned categories. If I remember correctly only very specific Nobel categories meet the aforementioned criteria.
- BoxFour 4y ago
  A factor in my judgement about whether the people I’ve met who dwarfed me with their intelligence were actually intelligent? Yeah I’d say it’s a factor :). Is this some kind of nihilistic moral relativism thing you’re playing at here? Otherwise I’m unclear what your point is. You implied I’ve never been exposed to extremely smart people and couldn’t fathom someone like Bob existing, I think I’ve made it pretty clear that’s a silly argument you made from a bad assumption.
  - deltasevennine 4y ago
    >Is this some kind of nihilistic moral relativism thing you’re playing at here? Otherwise I’m unclear what your point is. I thought my point is obvious. I'm saying your descriptions are unconvincing. The obvious path forward is to describe your "bubble" in further detail. What was the nobel prize for? > A factor in my judgement about whether the people I’ve met who dwarfed me with their intelligence were actually intelligent? Yeah I’d say it’s a factor :). I think this sentence shows you're unable to sense the implications of my statement. Why would I care about your judgement at all? Nobody cares, especially if we think you live in a <small> bubble. Does this clarify the next step? I'm basically asking for a more detailed description of your "bubble" so that I and others reading can make their own judgements about your bubble and the validity of your claim. So far your arguments of "academia" and "nobel prize" are unconvincing to me. Is that not obvious? I thought it was, I guess I need to be more explicit next time.
    - whynaut 4y ago
      > Why would I care about your judgment at all? Why do you expect a stranger on the internet to prove the relative intelligence of everyone around them, to you
      - deltasevennine 4y ago
        >Why do you expect a stranger on the internet to prove the relative intelligence of everyone around them, to you Why do you expect a stranger on the internet to answer your question? I'll answer your question regardless: I'm not expecting shit. My question was more of statement about why I disagree with him and why his opinion is invalid to me. I don't think he had an answer. I only ask for a "proof" out of politeness.
        whynaut 4y ago
        It was a rhetorical question, I thought that was obvious. Thanks for the useless answer.

TheCoelacanth 4y ago

I would doubt that even most Nobel laureates would qualify as 1 in 100 million. There are nearly 1000 living Nobel laureates out of 7.7 billion, so the rarest they could possibly be is about 1 in 8 million. Additionally, Nobel Prizes only cover a handful of fields out of hundreds of possible fields people could work in. I would put it at more like 1 in 100,000 or 1 in a million.

deltasevennine 4y ago

So you're surrounded by Nobel laureates and that is a factor in your judgement? Did these laureates gain the prize through productivity and intelligence? Does it prove you're not in a bubble and that your experience is broad enough to validate your suspicion? From my view point it really depends on if the Nobel laureate won the prize for IQ or productivity; or whether the category has any relation to the two aforementioned categories. If I remember correctly only very specific Nobel categories meet the aforementioned criteria.

BoxFour 4y ago
A factor in my judgement about whether the people I’ve met who dwarfed me with their intelligence were actually intelligent? Yeah I’d say it’s a factor :). Is this some kind of nihilistic moral relativism thing you’re playing at here? Otherwise I’m unclear what your point is. You implied I’ve never been exposed to extremely smart people and couldn’t fathom someone like Bob existing, I think I’ve made it pretty clear that’s a silly argument you made from a bad assumption.
- deltasevennine 4y ago
  >Is this some kind of nihilistic moral relativism thing you’re playing at here? Otherwise I’m unclear what your point is. I thought my point is obvious. I'm saying your descriptions are unconvincing. The obvious path forward is to describe your "bubble" in further detail. What was the nobel prize for? > A factor in my judgement about whether the people I’ve met who dwarfed me with their intelligence were actually intelligent? Yeah I’d say it’s a factor :). I think this sentence shows you're unable to sense the implications of my statement. Why would I care about your judgement at all? Nobody cares, especially if we think you live in a <small> bubble. Does this clarify the next step? I'm basically asking for a more detailed description of your "bubble" so that I and others reading can make their own judgements about your bubble and the validity of your claim. So far your arguments of "academia" and "nobel prize" are unconvincing to me. Is that not obvious? I thought it was, I guess I need to be more explicit next time.
  - whynaut 4y ago
    > Why would I care about your judgment at all? Why do you expect a stranger on the internet to prove the relative intelligence of everyone around them, to you
    - deltasevennine 4y ago
      >Why do you expect a stranger on the internet to prove the relative intelligence of everyone around them, to you Why do you expect a stranger on the internet to answer your question? I'll answer your question regardless: I'm not expecting shit. My question was more of statement about why I disagree with him and why his opinion is invalid to me. I don't think he had an answer. I only ask for a "proof" out of politeness.
      - whynaut 4y ago
        It was a rhetorical question, I thought that was obvious. Thanks for the useless answer.