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If we're going to throw out random theories for the cause like diet and pollution, what about all the volatile chemicals off-gassing from freshly manufactured g
by MonkeyMalarky 4y ago
If we're going to throw out random theories for the cause like diet and pollution, what about all the volatile chemicals off-gassing from freshly manufactured goods?
- Robotbeat 4y agoI actually wonder if viral epidemics are to blame? Increased air travel means rare viruses can become widespread.
- swayvil 4y ago[flagged]
- TEP_Kim_Il_Sung 4y agoImpossible. It is safe and effective.
- coding123 4y agoIt is telling that people are unwilling to even talk about that. Telling that people fall off science for their political ideologies.
- yamtaddle 4y agoIt's telling that people can't help but bring up some very-recent thing they're upset about for dubious reasons, when commenting on an article discussing a trend going back decades. People are "unwilling", in this thread, because it's irrelevant. Unless we're going for "all vaccines cause cancer", but from the context ("that vaccine", "It is safe and effective.") it seems we're talking about the Covid-19 vaccines. So, irrelevant. Whether they do or don't increase cancer risk (or even if they decrease it, which is also possible) has no bearing on the topic at hand.
- swayvil 4y agoThis vaccine is special, as we all know. And it's a possible cause that I offered. The parent was proposing a list. I added to it. And now I have been censored. Insane.
- thombat 4y agoThe article being discussed starts with these words "Over the past several decades", and you suggest as a cause a vaccine that the general public wasn't exposed to just two years ago. You're not being censored, you're receiving feedback that you did a dumb.
- chiefalchemist 4y agoTo be fair, I don't think those are random theories. There's plenty of research on the ill effects of (bad) diet, pollution, etc. But yeah, volatile chemicals are a form of hyper-local pollution. Perhaps less proof ATM, but close enough to regular (?) pollution to want to avoid it. Err to the side of caution, not to the side of cancer.
- Fezzik 4y agoThis is known issue, at least of late. There was a recent article posted here (can’t find it right now on mobile) about how that New Car Smell is caused, to some degree, by known carcinogens.
- Fire-Dragon-DoL 4y agoSad, that smell is amazing
- kaba0 4y agoWell, what isn’t a carcinogen? That word gets thrown around way too much — most food items we regularly eat contains several carcinogens, but besides increasing the statistical chance of cancer they are not imminently dangerous without further clarification on the metric of the effect.
- poxrud 4y agoYep, I recently found out that drinking very hot tea or coffee can be carcinogenic. This is the only way that I like to drink these beverages.
- hanniabu 4y agoDue to the containers
- eurasiantiger 4y agoAnd due to the heat
- Jill_the_Pill 4y agoI also wonder about exposure in youth to nuclear weapons testing fallout. That might show an identifiable spatial or temporal pattern, maybe falling off in more recent years and clustered among downwinders worldwide.
- kaba0 4y agoI don’t know, radiation is very easy to measure, has a very well-understood effect (the previous century was pretty much about getting to learn every interaction of radiation and the human body), and I don’t think that those fallouts even measurably increase radiation level compared to the usual background one. In short, radiation either has an immediate, very apparent and deadly effect, or a simple stochastic one that basically linearly increases with radiation exposure.
- ectopod 4y agoIt's not the environmental radiation that's the problem, it's ingested isotopes. See e.g. strontium and leukaemia.
- TEP_Kim_Il_Sung 4y agoOr long-term side-effects of medication, food-trends, or lack of exercise?
- rlt 4y agoGetting an air quality monitor was enlightening and terrifying. My child’s room (which unfortunately doesn’t have great ventilation) would sometimes hit 4000 ppb VOCs, which I tracked down to some of her stuffed animals…
- dcolkitt 4y agoStill not sure how post-Covid, we haven't concluded that improving indoor ventilation should be a massive public health priority.
- dan_quixote 4y agoBecause it's difficult. How do you solve for this problem in a house without internal ducting in temperature extremes throughout the year?
- rendang 4y agoI'm curious, how long has ventilation ducting been part of housing codes, in other words how old are houses that have that problem?
- parkingrift 4y agoMany (most?) houses in the north/north-east do not have ducts. It's very rare for me personally to come across central air in the NY area.
- yamtaddle 4y agoSeems like there'd be a lot of tension between that goal, and reducing energy use.
- meatmanek 4y agoIt's not 100% solvable, but it's possible to recover a lot of the thermal energy of the air you exhaust and put back into the air you're intaking: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_recovery_ventilation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_recovery_ventilation
- nativespecies 4y agoMy pet theory is plastics/microplastics. We're seeing now just how prevalent they are (and how inside of us they are, too).