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That's what I was pointing out, friend. HN is one of those internet communities where people reply with what I read as an aggressive tone, but they agree with

That's what I was pointing out, friend. HN is one of those internet communities where people reply with what I read as an aggressive tone, but they agree with me, and it's as if they are angrily correcting me but they didn't realize I was saying their same thing. Is that just my perception?

latchkey 4y ago
I wasn't being aggressive, I was filing in the blanks for others that might be interested. Your comment encouraged me do the research myself (I didn't remember who else was lifetime from my high school classes in the late 80's) and I figured I'd share that, as well as, give another link that explains a bit more context to what I felt you left out.
- asveikau 4y ago
  Ok, thank you. The internet is funny. Neutral tones can come across as aggressive. Aggression, generally, though, can totally be all in the head of the perceiver.
  - mistermann 4y ago
    Oh, it isn't just the internet that's funny, overall society/humanity is this way - we are swimming in it daily, and complain about it endlessly. I sometimes wonder if the reason no one seems super interested in fixing things is because we've been living in it for so long, we instinctively write it off as being "just the way it is" &/or "there's nothing you can do about it".
    - latchkey 4y ago
      Stuff is literally engineered to create that sort of thinking. Case in point: trying to find a contact number, is intentionally buried on websites.
      - mistermann 4y ago
        Oh for sure....but I am speaking extremely broadly....society and culture (two things that cover pretty much everything humans do), both "Western" and international. We live on a planet, that much seems mostly agreed upon...and, we do various things in a various way(s), "that's how it is"...and, it produces the results we see around us (which some people think are great, others not so much). We could try doing things massively differently than the way we do now and see what results that has. Or heck, we could even imagine doing things other ways, and imagine what results that might produce. Of course, people typically lose control of their imaginations when doing this...but maybe we should try not doing that. The reality runtime we are in seems to afford us substantial optionality for experimentation - I propose we take advantage of this option.
    - asveikau 4y ago
      Oh yeah, i know it's not just the internet either. Notice i said "the internet is that way", then, the next sentence describes "aggression" generically, without specifiers. Kind of intentionally worded that way. But i do think the internet, and maybe programmer communities especially, have a tendency to be dry and confrontational, focused on debate or correcting other people.

latchkey 4y ago

I wasn't being aggressive, I was filing in the blanks for others that might be interested. Your comment encouraged me do the research myself (I didn't remember who else was lifetime from my high school classes in the late 80's) and I figured I'd share that, as well as, give another link that explains a bit more context to what I felt you left out.

asveikau 4y ago
Ok, thank you. The internet is funny. Neutral tones can come across as aggressive. Aggression, generally, though, can totally be all in the head of the perceiver.
- mistermann 4y ago
  Oh, it isn't just the internet that's funny, overall society/humanity is this way - we are swimming in it daily, and complain about it endlessly. I sometimes wonder if the reason no one seems super interested in fixing things is because we've been living in it for so long, we instinctively write it off as being "just the way it is" &/or "there's nothing you can do about it".
  - latchkey 4y ago
    Stuff is literally engineered to create that sort of thinking. Case in point: trying to find a contact number, is intentionally buried on websites.
    - mistermann 4y ago
      Oh for sure....but I am speaking extremely broadly....society and culture (two things that cover pretty much everything humans do), both "Western" and international. We live on a planet, that much seems mostly agreed upon...and, we do various things in a various way(s), "that's how it is"...and, it produces the results we see around us (which some people think are great, others not so much). We could try doing things massively differently than the way we do now and see what results that has. Or heck, we could even imagine doing things other ways, and imagine what results that might produce. Of course, people typically lose control of their imaginations when doing this...but maybe we should try not doing that. The reality runtime we are in seems to afford us substantial optionality for experimentation - I propose we take advantage of this option.
  - asveikau 4y ago
    Oh yeah, i know it's not just the internet either. Notice i said "the internet is that way", then, the next sentence describes "aggression" generically, without specifiers. Kind of intentionally worded that way. But i do think the internet, and maybe programmer communities especially, have a tendency to be dry and confrontational, focused on debate or correcting other people.