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I hired and worked with an Oberlin graduate. Great person. Talented engineer. What specifically puts you off their entire student body; past, present, and futu

I hired and worked with an Oberlin graduate. Great person. Talented engineer. What specifically puts you off their entire student body; past, present, and future?

fortran77 4y ago
Well, I just looked on Twitter and see many, many Oberlin grads lamenting the Gibson's judgement and claiming that "everyone always knew" Gibson's was "racist" without any hard facts. Just one example: https://twitter.com/ejdickson/status/1566061809500622848 https://twitter.com/ejdickson/status/1566061809500622848 She's still calling people who pled guilty to shoplifting "alleged shoplifters." That's dishonest. Let's just say I don't hold by that school's accreditation.
- krasin 4y ago
  It's best to judge individual people for their indiviual deeds. Discrimination by a fact of belonging to a group is too imprecise, almost always. It's okay to be more vigilant based on it, though - statistics does work.
- remarkEon 4y ago
  Unrelated to your reply, but that twitter thread is truly bizarre. >The one thing about this that has always struck me as ludicrous is the argument that the student body serves as a tool of the colleges whims. Students fucking hate the administration and resist it at every turn, & always have…much like 19 yos at any liberal arts college Then why go to these schools? I don't understand why you'd pay $80k a year (just checked Oberlin's tuition for 2022) to go to a place that you hate. It makes absolutely no sense!
  - compiler-guy 4y ago
    Generally, they don't hate the institution itself, but rather the administration, or at least aspects of it. It's a classic youth rebellion against authority. They generally love their friends, love many of their teachers, and the environment, but they hate those who would enforce anything against what they think is right, or nice, or prudent.
    - subsistence234 4y ago
      Irrational rebellion is a puberty thing. Normal adolescents outgrow that phase by age 16. The loudest Oberlin "rebels" are in their mid-20s, some in their 30s and 40s.
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  - fortran77 4y ago
    Because Biden will forgive your loans?
- acoustics 4y ago
  This kind of knee-jerk reaction is exactly what many people don’t like about institutions like Oberlin. You’re not going to hire somebody because other people who went to the same school said dumb things on Twitter? Even the most hyper-PC liberals don’t go that far

I hired and worked with an Oberlin graduate. Great person. Talented engineer. What specifically puts you off their entire student body; past, present, and future?

fortran77 4y ago

Well, I just looked on Twitter and see many, many Oberlin grads lamenting the Gibson's judgement and claiming that "everyone always knew" Gibson's was "racist" without any hard facts. Just one example: https://twitter.com/ejdickson/status/1566061809500622848 https://twitter.com/ejdickson/status/1566061809500622848 She's still calling people who pled guilty to shoplifting "alleged shoplifters." That's dishonest. Let's just say I don't hold by that school's accreditation.

krasin 4y ago
It's best to judge individual people for their indiviual deeds. Discrimination by a fact of belonging to a group is too imprecise, almost always. It's okay to be more vigilant based on it, though - statistics does work.
remarkEon 4y ago
Unrelated to your reply, but that twitter thread is truly bizarre. >The one thing about this that has always struck me as ludicrous is the argument that the student body serves as a tool of the colleges whims. Students fucking hate the administration and resist it at every turn, & always have…much like 19 yos at any liberal arts college Then why go to these schools? I don't understand why you'd pay $80k a year (just checked Oberlin's tuition for 2022) to go to a place that you hate. It makes absolutely no sense!
- compiler-guy 4y ago
  Generally, they don't hate the institution itself, but rather the administration, or at least aspects of it. It's a classic youth rebellion against authority. They generally love their friends, love many of their teachers, and the environment, but they hate those who would enforce anything against what they think is right, or nice, or prudent.
  - subsistence234 4y ago
    Irrational rebellion is a puberty thing. Normal adolescents outgrow that phase by age 16. The loudest Oberlin "rebels" are in their mid-20s, some in their 30s and 40s.
- deleted 4y ago
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- fortran77 4y ago
  Because Biden will forgive your loans?
acoustics 4y ago
This kind of knee-jerk reaction is exactly what many people don’t like about institutions like Oberlin. You’re not going to hire somebody because other people who went to the same school said dumb things on Twitter? Even the most hyper-PC liberals don’t go that far