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> I feel like to be creative you just need to enjoy what you're doing. Enjoyment is not sufficient. Someone may enjoy playing video games, but it's hardly crea

> I feel like to be creative you just need to enjoy what you're doing. Enjoyment is not sufficient. Someone may enjoy playing video games, but it's hardly creative unless the game is designed in a specific way. Enjoyment is not necessary either, at least in the beginning. There are many things at which I was (at least somewhat) creative which I didn't enjoy doing when I first started. My enjoyment of those things actually followed my realization that I could be creative doing them. (If you want to know specifically what it was: it was marketing. I had a horrible aversion to it at first, until I realized that it is in fact a form of creativity).

ggwicz 15y ago
Bill Hicks covered marketing pretty well :) But real quickly: yeah, that dude playing video games is playing video games. If he were to then start developing video games, I'm just saying that creativity would be easier for him in that realm than if he decided to do something he didn't enjoy. And the thing you're doing might not be what you enjoy. The process it uses might be enjoyable. Marketing for you might have had a lot of freedom and individual control to it (I'm just using examples). So maybe you wouldn't be passionate about marketing per se, but the process of it and the lifestyle it brought might've been awesome. I mean, I bet there are very few people who really love insurance. But if running an insurance company your own way provides freedom and a good service, that can be enjoyable. And I agree that enjoyment is not necessary; it predisposes you to creativity, though. You don't have to have genetic flaws to develop a disease, but certain genetic hiccups can predispose you to that disease....
gaurav_v 15y ago
Can't playing video games be creative? I haven't played very many, but it always seemed to me that videogames were designed as highly engaging technical challenges, and you could certainly employ some degree of creativity in solving (winning) them. It's arguably not the most productive use of creative juice...
- bluekeybox 15y ago
  I wasn't saying that playing video games does not engage the creative part of one's brain whatever it is. I was simply saying that at the core of creativity is producing something that you can show to others, and that the biggest pleasure you derive should be not so much from being engaged into the process of creating (many great artists in fact literally suffered expelling inner demons/whatever when they made art), but from being proud that you have something to show. Otherwise you won't be pulled in one direction (to show something great to others) but in many at once (by whatever tickles your fancy during the creative process), which means you won't be as productive, which means you won't be as creative as you could be, which means that you will eventually stop valuing creativity because people in general are biased to value only those things they are good at.

ggwicz 15y ago

Bill Hicks covered marketing pretty well :) But real quickly: yeah, that dude playing video games is playing video games. If he were to then start developing video games, I'm just saying that creativity would be easier for him in that realm than if he decided to do something he didn't enjoy. And the thing you're doing might not be what you enjoy. The process it uses might be enjoyable. Marketing for you might have had a lot of freedom and individual control to it (I'm just using examples). So maybe you wouldn't be passionate about marketing per se, but the process of it and the lifestyle it brought might've been awesome. I mean, I bet there are very few people who really love insurance. But if running an insurance company your own way provides freedom and a good service, that can be enjoyable. And I agree that enjoyment is not necessary; it predisposes you to creativity, though. You don't have to have genetic flaws to develop a disease, but certain genetic hiccups can predispose you to that disease....

gaurav_v 15y ago

Can't playing video games be creative? I haven't played very many, but it always seemed to me that videogames were designed as highly engaging technical challenges, and you could certainly employ some degree of creativity in solving (winning) them. It's arguably not the most productive use of creative juice...

bluekeybox 15y ago
I wasn't saying that playing video games does not engage the creative part of one's brain whatever it is. I was simply saying that at the core of creativity is producing something that you can show to others, and that the biggest pleasure you derive should be not so much from being engaged into the process of creating (many great artists in fact literally suffered expelling inner demons/whatever when they made art), but from being proud that you have something to show. Otherwise you won't be pulled in one direction (to show something great to others) but in many at once (by whatever tickles your fancy during the creative process), which means you won't be as productive, which means you won't be as creative as you could be, which means that you will eventually stop valuing creativity because people in general are biased to value only those things they are good at.