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> * But 2,000 years ago the Europeans were were not "civilised" in the sense that we think of.* That really depends on what's your definition of "Europeans" an
by arinlen 4y ago
> * But 2,000 years ago the Europeans were were not "civilised" in the sense that we think of.*
That really depends on what's your definition of "Europeans" and "civilized". The Catholic church exists for around 2 thousand years,is still alive and well, has its capital in Italy, and has defined western society for centuries.
- morelisp 4y ago> The Catholic church exists for around 2 thousand years And even by the most forgiving measure, took three centuries to become anything you might historically call "European".