You're raising an interesting point, but you're coming close to saying that communities are bad, and in my experience they don't have to be. Even ones based aro

You're raising an interesting point, but you're coming close to saying that communities are bad, and in my experience they don't have to be. Even ones based around a product. Near where I used to live in the Valley, there was a real-world club for enthusiasts of a particular weird antique car. Not toxic, just eccentric. They just liked getting together and drinking in a nearby pub and showing off how they'd restored this or that aspect of the car. I think our goals should be to replicate that kind of success. I think the other posters in this thread have it right, that the reason why we usually can't is because our metrics are all about selling audiences to advertisers.