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Ask HN: Stable Diffusion: Who owns the copyright to images made on a local PC?

ineedasername 4y ago
Note: I know there are hot debates about copyright of underlying data training data set. I’m asking about what Stable Diffusion distributors allow/don’t allow.
josephcsible 4y ago
Wouldn't this case apply here too, making it ineligible for copyright protection? https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/us-copyright-office-rules-ai-art-cant-be-copyrighted-180979808/ https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/us-copyright-offic...
- YesWeWill 4y ago
  Seems very weird to me. Where's the difference between me using a Photoshop plugin that generates some parts of the image and me using Stable Diffusion that generates some parts of the image? How do you know how much of the image was generated and how much was created by my own hand in Photoshop? What if I have Stable Diffusion as Photoshop plugin?
bityard 4y ago
Google "transformative use."
- ineedasername 4y ago
  I mean what do the licenses of this software allow.
jaclaz 4y ago
Side question (let's set aside for a moment the issues about the underlying data set and photoshop editing), is the generation deterministic? I mean, given a set of prompts (text) to a specific engine, will the same set of prompts on the same engine after - say - one week produce a same image? Or in the meantime changes on the data set or whatever will generate a different image?
- navjack27 4y ago
  Using the same seed value and sampling method with the same every other value... Yes. It's the same. Time changes nothing.
  - jaclaz 4y ago
    So - in theory - one could copyright the exact prompt (and seed)? It wouldn't be much different from copyrighting a short poem or the lyrics of a song.
- tough 4y ago
  Yes it is deterministic, and it's beautiful, now works of art will be forever recoverable by prompt/seed/inputs. Even if ipfs and cloudflare loose your jpg, as long as civ is humming, and SD is runnable somewhere, your art will live. Forever
ThatGuySam 4y ago
If I'm reading the terms correctly they are CC0 1.0 Universal Public Domain Dedication by default: https://stability.ai/stablediffusion-terms-of-service#:~:text=accepted%20the%20full-,CC0%201.0%20Universal%20Public%20Domain%20Dedication,-(available%20at%20https https://stability.ai/stablediffusion-terms-of-service#:~:tex... Obviously this could change in the future.

Note: I know there are hot debates about copyright of underlying data training data set. I’m asking about what Stable Diffusion distributors allow/don’t allow.

josephcsible 4y ago

Wouldn't this case apply here too, making it ineligible for copyright protection? https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/us-copyright-office-rules-ai-art-cant-be-copyrighted-180979808/ https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/us-copyright-offic...

YesWeWill 4y ago
Seems very weird to me. Where's the difference between me using a Photoshop plugin that generates some parts of the image and me using Stable Diffusion that generates some parts of the image? How do you know how much of the image was generated and how much was created by my own hand in Photoshop? What if I have Stable Diffusion as Photoshop plugin?

bityard 4y ago

Google "transformative use."

ineedasername 4y ago
I mean what do the licenses of this software allow.

jaclaz 4y ago

Side question (let's set aside for a moment the issues about the underlying data set and photoshop editing), is the generation deterministic? I mean, given a set of prompts (text) to a specific engine, will the same set of prompts on the same engine after - say - one week produce a same image? Or in the meantime changes on the data set or whatever will generate a different image?

navjack27 4y ago
Using the same seed value and sampling method with the same every other value... Yes. It's the same. Time changes nothing.
- jaclaz 4y ago
  So - in theory - one could copyright the exact prompt (and seed)? It wouldn't be much different from copyrighting a short poem or the lyrics of a song.
tough 4y ago
Yes it is deterministic, and it's beautiful, now works of art will be forever recoverable by prompt/seed/inputs. Even if ipfs and cloudflare loose your jpg, as long as civ is humming, and SD is runnable somewhere, your art will live. Forever

ThatGuySam 4y ago

If I'm reading the terms correctly they are CC0 1.0 Universal Public Domain Dedication by default: https://stability.ai/stablediffusion-terms-of-service#:~:text=accepted%20the%20full-,CC0%201.0%20Universal%20Public%20Domain%20Dedication,-(available%20at%20https https://stability.ai/stablediffusion-terms-of-service#:~:tex... Obviously this could change in the future.