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In markets where renewables are a large chunk of the theoretical maximum power hugely negative prices are common. Producing 5% of 1MW for 5 minutes might be cos
by thrown_22 4y ago
In markets where renewables are a large chunk of the theoretical maximum power hugely negative prices are common. Producing 5% of 1MW for 5 minutes might be costing you more than what you made selling 100% of that 1MW for most of the day.
- doikor 4y agoIn Finland they got that situation somewhat covered. The same companies that own most of the nuclear power plants (Olkiluoto) are also some of the largest consumers (UPM and Stora Enso. Two very large paper companies). They also own a lot of hydro so they have a lot of capability to adjust the equation both from the input and output side. These paper companies own all this production because electricity is a massive part of their operational costs and by owning the production if the market goes bad they can just use it themselves at cost of production instead of selling the electricity on the open market basically capping the cost of electricity in their costs. (edit: Actually now that I think about it this is very similar to how most big cloud platforms work. Basically you build infrastructure for your own use and then also sell the same infrastructure to anyone who is interested.) > Producing 5% of 1MW can be costing you more than what you made selling 100% of that 1MW for most of the day. The thing is that with nuclear the costs will be mostly the same when plant is off, at 5% or at 100% (probably most expensive is at off state as you can't use the electricity you made yourself to run all the cooling systems etc). Obviously if the market prices are negative you just run at plant at minimum power which is basically just enough to cover the plants own usage.