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Apple doesn't believe in software that exposes their users to content outside of their walled garden.

4eleven7 4y ago
Apple doesn't believe in enabling illegal piracy, which is 99.9999999% of the usage of torrents. Twitter, web browsers, and YouTube are fine on the App Store.
- willcipriano 4y ago
  > enabling illegal piracy > YouTube Hmmm.
  - 4eleven7 4y ago
    Because YouTube "is 99.9999999%" piracy? Hmmmm. Piracy on YouTube isn't 0%, obviously. But it isn't in the same league, or comparable to torrenting.
  - tluyben2 4y ago
    And browsers. Go watch series has everything.
    - deleted 4y ago
      [deleted]
- sieabah 4y ago
  I've used torrents to download software so that the provider didn't need to pay bandwidth to share their software. There are completely legal and reasonable reasons torrenting exists. They're excellent at making huge downloads possible with the more efficient bandwidth. Instead of that, we have an ecosystem of "installers" that exist purely to download massive files to install.
  - kube-system 4y ago
    There are many things with technically legal purposes that people often choose not to associate with because they find the cons outweigh the pros. This is that.
    - sieabah 4y ago
      I wish torrenting for general downloads was more popular. I had unstable internet that would make downloading anything over 100MB impossible. Slap a torrent together of the same payload and it'd be guaranteed not to stall/error because of the network.
      - kube-system 4y ago
        I agree, I wish they were more common, but you don't need torrents to solve any issues with resuming downloads. HTTP supports sufficient functionality to accomplish this: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Range_requests https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Range_requ...
        mixmastamyk 4y ago
        while; wget -c http://...; end (From memory, may need tweaking.)
    - tonypags 4y ago
      Cons of cryptocurrency outweigh the Pros. Yet these apps are on the app store.
      - kube-system 4y ago
        Maybe so. Judgement is subjective.
      - pwinnski 4y ago
        And I'd be happy if they weren't, but people would be more upset over that than torrent clients.
- kevin_thibedeau 4y ago
  Rip. Mix. Burn.
- HereIGoAgain 4y ago
  .....riiight.
- jesuscript 4y ago
  A developer might want to offload bandwidth hosting costs to p2p.
Maursault 4y ago
> Apple doesn't believe in software that exposes their users to content outside of their walled garden. Mobile Safari ordinarily exposes users to content, media, and applications outside Apple's walled garden, namely, the World Wide Web. Apple's walled garden only restricts the platform to protect users' system security and privacy, only allowing the installation of software from Apple's package manager, the AppStore. Apple does not restrict content, media, or applications. Contrary to popular belief, dissent is a very good thing. If everyone always agreed, there would never be progress. It is only through dissent that things can improve. Further, I, for one, appreciate cynicism, as it often is efficient in communicating valid criticism. But as far as I am aware, no one cares for inaccuracy and most despise bullshit, libel and slander. Carry on.
- stoplying1 4y ago
  This is so corpo-double-speaky that I'm almost worried it's satire going over my head.
  - plankers 4y ago
    pretty sure it's just HN being HN
HereIGoAgain 4y ago
Translation: Apple doesn't believe in the freedom to get for free, what they could restrict and charge you for themselves.

Apple doesn't believe in enabling illegal piracy, which is 99.9999999% of the usage of torrents. Twitter, web browsers, and YouTube are fine on the App Store.

willcipriano 4y ago
> enabling illegal piracy > YouTube Hmmm.
- 4eleven7 4y ago
  Because YouTube "is 99.9999999%" piracy? Hmmmm. Piracy on YouTube isn't 0%, obviously. But it isn't in the same league, or comparable to torrenting.
- tluyben2 4y ago
  And browsers. Go watch series has everything.
  - deleted 4y ago
    [deleted]
sieabah 4y ago
I've used torrents to download software so that the provider didn't need to pay bandwidth to share their software. There are completely legal and reasonable reasons torrenting exists. They're excellent at making huge downloads possible with the more efficient bandwidth. Instead of that, we have an ecosystem of "installers" that exist purely to download massive files to install.
- kube-system 4y ago
  There are many things with technically legal purposes that people often choose not to associate with because they find the cons outweigh the pros. This is that.
  - sieabah 4y ago
    I wish torrenting for general downloads was more popular. I had unstable internet that would make downloading anything over 100MB impossible. Slap a torrent together of the same payload and it'd be guaranteed not to stall/error because of the network.
    - kube-system 4y ago
      I agree, I wish they were more common, but you don't need torrents to solve any issues with resuming downloads. HTTP supports sufficient functionality to accomplish this: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Range_requests https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Range_requ...
      - mixmastamyk 4y ago
        while; wget -c http://...; end (From memory, may need tweaking.)
  - tonypags 4y ago
    Cons of cryptocurrency outweigh the Pros. Yet these apps are on the app store.
    - kube-system 4y ago
      Maybe so. Judgement is subjective.
    - pwinnski 4y ago
      And I'd be happy if they weren't, but people would be more upset over that than torrent clients.
kevin_thibedeau 4y ago
Rip. Mix. Burn.
HereIGoAgain 4y ago
.....riiight.
jesuscript 4y ago
A developer might want to offload bandwidth hosting costs to p2p.

Maursault 4y ago

> Apple doesn't believe in software that exposes their users to content outside of their walled garden. Mobile Safari ordinarily exposes users to content, media, and applications outside Apple's walled garden, namely, the World Wide Web. Apple's walled garden only restricts the platform to protect users' system security and privacy, only allowing the installation of software from Apple's package manager, the AppStore. Apple does not restrict content, media, or applications. Contrary to popular belief, dissent is a very good thing. If everyone always agreed, there would never be progress. It is only through dissent that things can improve. Further, I, for one, appreciate cynicism, as it often is efficient in communicating valid criticism. But as far as I am aware, no one cares for inaccuracy and most despise bullshit, libel and slander. Carry on.

stoplying1 4y ago
This is so corpo-double-speaky that I'm almost worried it's satire going over my head.
- plankers 4y ago
  pretty sure it's just HN being HN

HereIGoAgain 4y ago

Translation: Apple doesn't believe in the freedom to get for free, what they could restrict and charge you for themselves.