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By that reasoning shouldn't encryption also be banned?

by encryptluks2 4y ago

altairprime 4y ago
Less than 99.9999% of encryption is for piracy, so no, the reasoning isn’t transitive from torrenting to encryption.
- encryptluks2 4y ago
  But near 100% of piracy uses encryption
colordrops 4y ago
No, the vast majority of encryption is not used for illegal activity.
- BudaDude 4y ago
  Only because the technology was pushed forward and adopted for the masses. P2P is used a lot of normal actives (Zoom, Discord, Games, Collaboration apps). It's just when it comes to sending large amounts of data, that Apple wants to have a say in it.
  - newaccount74 4y ago
    I don't think Apple cares about sending data in general. Apple allows other P2P file sharing apps on the app store (Resilio Sync or Möbius Sync come to mind).
  - frumper 4y ago
    Funny that you mention normal activities that are all allowed on Apple as examples of good P2P uses. Most of the sending large amounts of data P2P uses are illegal file sharing.
  - colordrops 4y ago
    Oh sure, I use torrent for legitimate things as well, e.g. Internet Archive downloads and Linux ISO image downloads, and don't think that Apple should ban the apps. I'm just pointing out that the analogy doesn't work.
- sieabah 4y ago
  Are you sure? VPNs probably carry that torrent traffic with encryption. Onion sites which carry the most illegal content on Earth also use encryption. Your reasoning is aligned with banning encryption because in all cases where something is illegal they tend to use some level of encryption.
  - kube-system 4y ago
    We are very very sure. HTTPS adoption across the web is at 95%. Onion and VPN traffic are rounding errors compared to the amount of traffic on the web.
  - Sohcahtoa82 4y ago
    The phrase used was "The vast majority" Consider the fact that every major website uses encryption in transit (HTTPS). Consider how much data Netflix streams to users. Those video streams are encrypted. I think it's fair to say that the vast majority of encryption is for protecting non-pirated and legal content.
    - cronix 4y ago
      And everything on Netflix is also available, unencrypted, on torrent.
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vlod 4y ago
Maybe you forgot that the communication to https://news.ycombinator.com https://news.ycombinator.com is encrypted.

By that reasoning shouldn't encryption also be banned?

altairprime 4y ago

Less than 99.9999% of encryption is for piracy, so no, the reasoning isn’t transitive from torrenting to encryption.

encryptluks2 4y ago
But near 100% of piracy uses encryption

colordrops 4y ago

No, the vast majority of encryption is not used for illegal activity.

BudaDude 4y ago
Only because the technology was pushed forward and adopted for the masses. P2P is used a lot of normal actives (Zoom, Discord, Games, Collaboration apps). It's just when it comes to sending large amounts of data, that Apple wants to have a say in it.
- newaccount74 4y ago
  I don't think Apple cares about sending data in general. Apple allows other P2P file sharing apps on the app store (Resilio Sync or Möbius Sync come to mind).
- frumper 4y ago
  Funny that you mention normal activities that are all allowed on Apple as examples of good P2P uses. Most of the sending large amounts of data P2P uses are illegal file sharing.
- colordrops 4y ago
  Oh sure, I use torrent for legitimate things as well, e.g. Internet Archive downloads and Linux ISO image downloads, and don't think that Apple should ban the apps. I'm just pointing out that the analogy doesn't work.
sieabah 4y ago
Are you sure? VPNs probably carry that torrent traffic with encryption. Onion sites which carry the most illegal content on Earth also use encryption. Your reasoning is aligned with banning encryption because in all cases where something is illegal they tend to use some level of encryption.
- kube-system 4y ago
  We are very very sure. HTTPS adoption across the web is at 95%. Onion and VPN traffic are rounding errors compared to the amount of traffic on the web.
- Sohcahtoa82 4y ago
  The phrase used was "The vast majority" Consider the fact that every major website uses encryption in transit (HTTPS). Consider how much data Netflix streams to users. Those video streams are encrypted. I think it's fair to say that the vast majority of encryption is for protecting non-pirated and legal content.
  - cronix 4y ago
    And everything on Netflix is also available, unencrypted, on torrent.

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vlod 4y ago

Maybe you forgot that the communication to https://news.ycombinator.com https://news.ycombinator.com is encrypted.