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Twine: Listen to your world, talk to the Internet
- quizbiz 15y agoI think the idea is ingenius. Best of luck to them. I can't wait until the price point falls down for products like these. At a price point like $10-$20, I would be buying a six pack.
- lwhi 15y agoI love the idea, but conceptual and economically, I find the idea of using one sensor in a multisensor device on a long term basis problematic. I'd prefer a modular system where I can provide a wifi base module with specific sensors as required through plugin parts. Lovely project in any case.
- ErrantX 15y agoIt's always been in the back of my mind to try and put something like that together. Arduino + ZigBee + modular wireless sensors, or something like that.
- mw63214 15y agokind of like... https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:yTNyEk0hQd8J:www.exmovere.com/pdf/Exmovere_Wearable_Sensor_Research.pdf+&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESgVKa6stgoDbt8Sm5ZCoIHrtnSKCRG9zB7eJNjv6fx2ivXbuK_5ABIzjDk7ULmm_BT-HNj11ZlMY6wRd_tsU1NL6RMRqaryILjzbG_VVmsyiQfGCLIzAEjVvDdyfyQ9xTewHVri&sig=AHIEtbRCXGdsAD1q6-8Ec-hvjFM-8cLUxg https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:yTNyEk0hQd8J:...
- mseebach 15y agoIt feels wrong, I agree, but the individual sensors are dirt cheap. From poking around on farnell.com, it seems likely that the total bulk value of the sensors is probably south of a few dollars per unit, which is much, much cheaper than introducing the complexity and brittleness of modularity.
- acgourley 15y agoyeah the sensors are basically free, it's the wifi radio / board thats the single most expensive piece on that. Might be more than the rest combined.
- antninja 15y agoSo it hopes to become an alarm system for everything, not just robbery and fire. The smartphones are replacing specialized devices like cameras and music players, so maybe there's an opportunity for a generalized alarm system. People want to listen their babies, prevent kids from going to the pool alone, and this anti-flooding alarm seems quite unique too. Certainly the pods should alert us when the batteries are empty, and it should be an install-and-forget type of thing. We'll see if it's the iPhone or the Newton of alarms systems.
- Fargren 15y agoThis could work great with ifttt http://ifttt.com/ http://ifttt.com/
- jsilence 15y agoI really wish services like this would use and promote pubsubhubbub (https://code.google.com/p/pubsubhubbub/ https://code.google.com/p/pubsubhubbub/) instead of constantly polling the sources. As it was said in a discussion here in HN a couple of says ago ("Welcome to the new web"), RSS and Atom feeds are becoming less and less supported. Which is a sad and bad thing with regard to the internet of things that is to come with Twine and GreenGoose and Arduino/xbee/sensors. The appropriate protocols are there. Please use them.
- bryanh 15y agoWe're doing a similar startup (https://zapier.com/ https://zapier.com/) and would love to use pubsubhubbub, but most API's don't stream, so we resort to polling... again. It's unfortunate, and something we'd like to work towards changing.
- lightcatcher 15y agopubsubhubbub doesn't have privacy/authentication/authorization mechanisms as part of the protocol, so creating near real-time push APIs isn't just as simple as using some pubsubhubbub library. I think its the complexity of coming up with one's own auth system that stops a lot of people from using pubsubhubbub. However, it is pretty awesome for things that are published to everyone.
- delosfuegos 15y agoGreat idea. This is obviously not the final step for this product. It is a great concept with a great deal of potential (basically any domotics application) and it will probably have a large potential user base. Think of all the DIYers, techies, semi-techies and others who want to create their own way of domotics. I love it.
- rzbn 15y agoMe too. The second I read i thought it was a good idea. Just the other day I was thinking of creating smarter kitchen appliances, I think this is the way to go.
- rzbn 15y agoMe too. The second I read i thought it was a good idea. Just the other day I was thinking of creating smarter kitchen appliances, I think this is the way to go.
- gtufano 15y agoSun SPOTs (Sun Small Programmable Object Technology) was a similar project of Sun Microsystems. Now open source: http://java.net/projects/spots/pages/Home http://java.net/projects/spots/pages/Home
- paulgailey 15y agothe sensorial web for the pleb
- postscapes1 15y agoIf you guys like this project, Green Goose is another sensor based system coming out: http://greengoose.com/ http://greengoose.com/ Overall sensors + connectivity will be getting very cheap soon and it is cool to see a project like this see beyond this to include ifttt type functionality integrating other existing systems and actions. The move to become the platform for all of data being generated by devices like this is getting heated as well (not sure if the Twine guys are thinking this route or not with the Spool web app) With Pachube, Thingworx, and a whole host of others attempting to become this centralized hub. It will be interesting to see if we end up with specialized platforms for different segments of our lives (i.e: one for health, one for your home, etc) or if a 'Facebook' for your things will emerge. Self Plug: We are tracking this "Internet of Things" on http://postscapes.com http://postscapes.com if you are interested in the topic at all.
- aquark 15y agoGreengoose looks interesting, but I've just read every page I could find on their site (3 mins?) and still don't understand exactly what the 'sensors' are and what they can 'sense'. How does a sensors tell if I've fed the dog today?
- Tichy 15y agoMaybe it is a weight sensor in his food bowl? Or a camera pointing to the stack of dog food cans?
- postscapes1 15y agoThey are a little sparse on the details in their marketing. Apparently the tags have embedded custom 915MHz radios and MEMS accelerometers in them. Articles with a little more about them: http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/23/green-goose-sensors-monitor-your-life-you-earn-experience-point/ http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/23/green-goose-sensors-monit... http://www.fastcodesign.com/1663528/green-goose-tracks-whether-your-kids-are-doing-their-chores http://www.fastcodesign.com/1663528/green-goose-tracks-wheth...
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- pavlov 15y agoThe copy highlights something that I don't understand about Twitter. It reads: Maybe you want to get a tweet when your laundry's done [...] Who would actually do this? Why would I use Twitter to send a private notification like that? It's pretty much the worst system imaginable. Twitter works great for broadcasting to people, but it's nonsense for one-to-one messages. Is this really how I want to set up my washing machine: 1) Create a Twitter account for the machine. Let's call it @pavlovs_2011_electrolux. 2) Subscribe my public Twitter account to @pavlovs_2011_electrolux. (Alternatively, maybe the washing machine can be configured with my public Twitter account so it can send messages to me.) 3) Keep an eye for my washing machine's notifications amongst a sea of disorganized tweets about public topics.
- mariorz 15y agotwitter has private messages and comes with an ecosystem of apps with notification systems for pretty much all mobile devices.
- sjs 15y agoSo does email. Email will be around in 5-10 years and is not tied to a company. Who knows what will happen to Twitter.
- ErrantX 15y agoIf my washing machine emailed me that would likely get lost in the noise. A Twitter DM is, relatively speaking, more noticeable. (Although; an actual direct notification service would be even better)
- acgourley 15y agoWait, really? You must use email and twitter in strange ways. I would also suggest setting up a "priority" email path for certain cases, like this.
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- cloudwalking 15y agoI've seen a lot of people talking about Twine today (HN, Twitter, TC), but I haven't yet heard any use cases that are actually useful. I am certain there are plenty of great uses for this, but I haven't seen any yet. I don't want a tweet when my laundry is done. It's pretty unlikely my basement will flood. How could this add value to my life, say once a week?
- yesbabyyes 15y agoI don't know you, but I imagine lots of people who could use a bunch of these for a summer home or winter cottage. Temperature, did someone enter the door, is it dry... Good things to be notified about.