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Amongst the many conceits of people like you is that there is such a thing as "enough". If only you give Putin X (Crimea, Donbas, Ukraine, Moldova, Baltics), he

Amongst the many conceits of people like you is that there is such a thing as "enough". If only you give Putin X (Crimea, Donbas, Ukraine, Moldova, Baltics), he will calm down and everything will be alright. The only 'enough' an empire knows is when it collapses.

thematrixturtle 4y ago
But appeasement worked so well last time in 1938, when we gave Germany the Sudetenland and satisfied their desire for Lebensraum once and for all! And I'm sure we could have avoided all that unpleasantness in the Pacific if the West had just recognized Manchukuo as well.
dimensionc132 4y ago
Where is your outrage against Israel who shell and attack the Gaza strip and who steal land from the Palestinians in the West Bank? Where is your outrage when the USA attacks a foreign country with impunity and kills tens of thousands of "collateral damage" civillians in order to gain access to oil and gas resources or strategic trade routes or military positions? .... all i hear is your silence But when Russia does something to protect their border, ooooohhh, big bad russia.... must punish with useless sanctions that only hurt EU and the rest of the world. Like the German Green Party member Annalena Baerbock who does not care if German people freeze and die in winter because a foreign countries conflict is more important than her own people. " I will put Ukraine first “no matter what my German voters think” or how hard their life gets. " Zelensky is a puppet for the USA and will never relinquish this failure of a war against Russia, regardless of how many Ukrainians die in the process, because 1) he is receiving essentially and endless supply of arms and military aid from the US and 2) his ego won't allow it.
- arkitaip 4y ago
  At least have the decency to not pretend that you actually care about the Palestinians or any other group of people suffering under oppression.
  - dimensionc132 4y ago
    the history of mankind is mired in war and conquest, it is an inescapable part of what makes us human (sadly). What i don't like is fake outrage and hypocrisy from Zelesnky zealots who seem "ok" with thousands of civilians dying because one actor/Prime Minister can't understand when he is beaten. If Russia really wanted to, they have the arsenal to level and completely destroy the Ukraine and its infastructure, but they don't. Instead of understanding this fact, Zelesnky continues to "poke the bear" and continues this useless war with ever more fervor. Sometimes you have to know when you are beaten for the greater good of your countries citizens.
    - _kbh_ 4y ago
      > What i don't like is fake outrage and hypocrisy from Zelesnky zealots who seem "ok" with thousands of civilians dying because one actor/Prime Minister can't understand when he is beaten. The Ukrainians are fighting for the very existence of their country and people, the Russians commit genocide regularly in Ukraine and regularly kill and rape civilians. > If Russia really wanted to, they have the arsenal to level and completely destroy the Ukraine and its infastructure, but they don't. Instead of understanding this fact, Zelesnky continues to "poke the bear" and continues this useless war with ever more fervor. The bear is not getting poked, it's getting destroyed right now, in this month alone Russias losses have been staggering. Ukraine is clearly winning back large amounts of territory now with the counteroffensive. The Russians have melted in the face of a slight resistance. Who knew that the Russian army was incapable of taking a cities a mere couple hundreds of kilometres from its border?, they are a joke compared to what the world thought of them prior to the invasion this year. > Sometimes you have to know when you are beaten for the greater good of your countries citizens. Should tell Putin this before the Russians roll out the T-55s. I don't think they are far off it.
    - TheGigaChad 4y ago
  - tehnicaorg 4y ago
    After reading some comments from the history of the other user, I'm asking myself if HN supports shadow banning.
- Brometheus 4y ago
  You just repeat the talking points prepared for Russian assets. Boring.
  - dimensionc132 4y ago
    Points which are common sense you mean and that any sane individual would agree with
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- wbsss4412 4y ago
  > when Russia does something to protect their border, ooooohhh, big bad russia That’s funny, I didn’t realize that Ukraine was inside of Russia’s borders. I thought it was it’s own sovereign country.

thematrixturtle 4y ago

But appeasement worked so well last time in 1938, when we gave Germany the Sudetenland and satisfied their desire for Lebensraum once and for all! And I'm sure we could have avoided all that unpleasantness in the Pacific if the West had just recognized Manchukuo as well.

dimensionc132 4y ago

Where is your outrage against Israel who shell and attack the Gaza strip and who steal land from the Palestinians in the West Bank? Where is your outrage when the USA attacks a foreign country with impunity and kills tens of thousands of "collateral damage" civillians in order to gain access to oil and gas resources or strategic trade routes or military positions? .... all i hear is your silence But when Russia does something to protect their border, ooooohhh, big bad russia.... must punish with useless sanctions that only hurt EU and the rest of the world. Like the German Green Party member Annalena Baerbock who does not care if German people freeze and die in winter because a foreign countries conflict is more important than her own people. " I will put Ukraine first “no matter what my German voters think” or how hard their life gets. " Zelensky is a puppet for the USA and will never relinquish this failure of a war against Russia, regardless of how many Ukrainians die in the process, because 1) he is receiving essentially and endless supply of arms and military aid from the US and 2) his ego won't allow it.

arkitaip 4y ago
At least have the decency to not pretend that you actually care about the Palestinians or any other group of people suffering under oppression.
- dimensionc132 4y ago
  the history of mankind is mired in war and conquest, it is an inescapable part of what makes us human (sadly). What i don't like is fake outrage and hypocrisy from Zelesnky zealots who seem "ok" with thousands of civilians dying because one actor/Prime Minister can't understand when he is beaten. If Russia really wanted to, they have the arsenal to level and completely destroy the Ukraine and its infastructure, but they don't. Instead of understanding this fact, Zelesnky continues to "poke the bear" and continues this useless war with ever more fervor. Sometimes you have to know when you are beaten for the greater good of your countries citizens.
  - _kbh_ 4y ago
    > What i don't like is fake outrage and hypocrisy from Zelesnky zealots who seem "ok" with thousands of civilians dying because one actor/Prime Minister can't understand when he is beaten. The Ukrainians are fighting for the very existence of their country and people, the Russians commit genocide regularly in Ukraine and regularly kill and rape civilians. > If Russia really wanted to, they have the arsenal to level and completely destroy the Ukraine and its infastructure, but they don't. Instead of understanding this fact, Zelesnky continues to "poke the bear" and continues this useless war with ever more fervor. The bear is not getting poked, it's getting destroyed right now, in this month alone Russias losses have been staggering. Ukraine is clearly winning back large amounts of territory now with the counteroffensive. The Russians have melted in the face of a slight resistance. Who knew that the Russian army was incapable of taking a cities a mere couple hundreds of kilometres from its border?, they are a joke compared to what the world thought of them prior to the invasion this year. > Sometimes you have to know when you are beaten for the greater good of your countries citizens. Should tell Putin this before the Russians roll out the T-55s. I don't think they are far off it.
  - TheGigaChad 4y ago
- tehnicaorg 4y ago
  After reading some comments from the history of the other user, I'm asking myself if HN supports shadow banning.
Brometheus 4y ago
You just repeat the talking points prepared for Russian assets. Boring.
- dimensionc132 4y ago
  Points which are common sense you mean and that any sane individual would agree with
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wbsss4412 4y ago
> when Russia does something to protect their border, ooooohhh, big bad russia That’s funny, I didn’t realize that Ukraine was inside of Russia’s borders. I thought it was it’s own sovereign country.