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> The writer George Jean Nathan claimed that before the 1920s, there existed only eight basic sandwich types This is 2022 - you can get old cookbooks from arch

> The writer George Jean Nathan claimed that before the 1920s, there existed only eight basic sandwich types This is 2022 - you can get old cookbooks from archive.org and check if Nathan was right. He wasn't. For example, "The up-to-date sandwich book : 400 ways to make a sandwich", by Eva Greene Fuller. Published in Chicago in 1909. https://archive.org/details/uptodatesandwich00full/page/n7/mode/2up https://archive.org/details/uptodatesandwich00full/page/n7/m... Or, a generation earlier in 1884, the book "Salads and Sauces" by Thomas Jefferson Murrey (New York) has a chapter on sandwiches. https://archive.org/details/saladsandsauces00murrgoog/page/n281/mode/2up?q=sandwich https://archive.org/details/saladsandsauces00murrgoog/page/n... including "Apple Sandwich", "Anchovy Sandwich", "Beef, Raw, Sandwich", "Brie Sandwich", "Caviare Sandwich", "Clam Sandwich", "Curry Sandwich", "Dandelion Sandwich", "Duck Sandwich", and so on for several more pages, ending with "Welsh Sandwich". Look under "Goose Liver" for the foie gras entry. I hope I helped save your meal!

b112 4y ago
I think it is a joke on the "there are only 5 story types" blather you hear, every so often.
- brudgers 4y ago
  Yes, there are only two story types. + Someone goes on a journey. + A stranger comes to town.
  - effingwewt 4y ago
    That's just one story from two perspectives though?
    - brudgers 4y ago
      Two faces of the hero?
      - _0ffh 4y ago
        Conclusively proving that the hero is a gemini.
    - cossatot 4y ago
      It’s the Langrangian vs Eulerian specification of fiction
  - zeroonetwothree 4y ago
    This is only true if you define journey as basically doing anything interesting. But then you are just saying that the only story type is “someone does something”.
    - pessimizer 4y ago
      There's only one story type. Somebody runs into a problem and tries to solve it, but fails at the halfway mark because they didn't understand the problem well enough. They rethink the problem and try to solve it again, but fail at the 3/4 mark because they don't understand themselves. Then they defeat the problem by gaining understanding of themselves (or fail to defeat the problem because of a willful refusal to change, or have a partial/late revelation and a partial/late success.) Problem > failure of vision > failure of character > solution. Stories are attached to particular protagonists, but you can do things like overlap the stories of multiple protagonists or give a single protagonist multiple overlapping stories in order to develop narratives of arbitrary complexity.
      - monkeydreams 4y ago
        > There's only one story type One type, yes, and Kishōtenketsu as well. And now you know.
  - deleted 4y ago
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pwython 4y ago
A caviare sandwich sounds like a really expensive "sloppy joe."
- jugg1es 4y ago
  "sloppy roe"
- dagw 4y ago
  Depends on the caviar. In Sweden caviare made with salt cod roe is a cheap and popular sandwich spread.
  - eesmith 4y ago
    I believe at the time caviar only meant sturgeon roe. The aforementioned recipe from https://archive.org/details/saladsandsauces00murrgoog/page/n283/mode/2up https://archive.org/details/saladsandsauces00murrgoog/page/n... says: > Caviare is the roe of the sturgeon prepared under many formulas, the Russian being the best. Take a teaspoonful of caviare, put it in a soup-plate ; add to it a saltspoonful of chopped onion, a walnut of butter, and the juice of half a lemon ; work well together, spread on thin slices of rye-bread, press them together, cut the sandwich in two, and serve. Americans as a class do not like caviare. According to Wikipedia, 1 salt spoon (ssp) = 0.25 teaspoon. The other recipe book has caviare-lobster sandwich (species unspecified; I assume sturgeon), roe sandwich (salt herring), and two types of shad-roe sandwiches (shad). See https://archive.org/details/uptodatesandwich00full/page/12/mode/2up https://archive.org/details/uptodatesandwich00full/page/12/m... . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caviar https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caviar mentions: > In Scandinavia, a type of sandwich spread is available, made from smoked cod roe and other ingredients, which is referred to as smörgåskaviar (meaning "sandwich caviar"). Outside Scandinavia, the product is referred to as creamed smoked roe or in French as Caviar de Lysekil. Perhaps the Swedish term "kaviar" doesn't overlap fully with the English term "caviar"? https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/kaviar#Swedish https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/kaviar#Swedish says: 1. caviar (roe of the sturgeon) 2. creamed smoked roe, Scandinavian sandwich caviar while https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/caviar#Noun https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/caviar#Noun says: 1. Roe of the sturgeon or of certain other large fish, considered a delicacy. 2. (figuratively) Something whose flavour is too fine for the vulgar taste.
stefantalpalaru 4y ago
0xbadcafebee 4y ago
Before the internet existed you could just say things confidently and nobody could check if you were right. Nowadays you check the internet and there's 100 blog posts backing up the lie. What a time to be alive.
- wizofaus 4y ago
  And for each of those blog posts, several others refuting them.
  - trelane 4y ago
    and that's before we get to the comments
    - eesmith 4y ago
      This entire thread is comments. ;)
      - pcthrowaway 4y ago
        All the world's a comment section, and we are merely commentators
        eesmith 4y ago
        To comment, or not to comment. That is the question. It was a comment written by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.
        0xbadcafebee 4y ago
        Now is the Eternal September of our discontent. Is this a comment box which I see before me, the submit button toward my hand?
        trelane 4y ago

b112 4y ago

I think it is a joke on the "there are only 5 story types" blather you hear, every so often.

brudgers 4y ago
Yes, there are only two story types. + Someone goes on a journey. + A stranger comes to town.
- effingwewt 4y ago
  That's just one story from two perspectives though?
  - brudgers 4y ago
    Two faces of the hero?
    - _0ffh 4y ago
      Conclusively proving that the hero is a gemini.
  - cossatot 4y ago
    It’s the Langrangian vs Eulerian specification of fiction
- zeroonetwothree 4y ago
  This is only true if you define journey as basically doing anything interesting. But then you are just saying that the only story type is “someone does something”.
  - pessimizer 4y ago
    There's only one story type. Somebody runs into a problem and tries to solve it, but fails at the halfway mark because they didn't understand the problem well enough. They rethink the problem and try to solve it again, but fail at the 3/4 mark because they don't understand themselves. Then they defeat the problem by gaining understanding of themselves (or fail to defeat the problem because of a willful refusal to change, or have a partial/late revelation and a partial/late success.) Problem > failure of vision > failure of character > solution. Stories are attached to particular protagonists, but you can do things like overlap the stories of multiple protagonists or give a single protagonist multiple overlapping stories in order to develop narratives of arbitrary complexity.
    - monkeydreams 4y ago
      > There's only one story type One type, yes, and Kishōtenketsu as well. And now you know.
- deleted 4y ago
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pwython 4y ago

A caviare sandwich sounds like a really expensive "sloppy joe."

jugg1es 4y ago
"sloppy roe"
dagw 4y ago
Depends on the caviar. In Sweden caviare made with salt cod roe is a cheap and popular sandwich spread.
- eesmith 4y ago
  I believe at the time caviar only meant sturgeon roe. The aforementioned recipe from https://archive.org/details/saladsandsauces00murrgoog/page/n283/mode/2up https://archive.org/details/saladsandsauces00murrgoog/page/n... says: > Caviare is the roe of the sturgeon prepared under many formulas, the Russian being the best. Take a teaspoonful of caviare, put it in a soup-plate ; add to it a saltspoonful of chopped onion, a walnut of butter, and the juice of half a lemon ; work well together, spread on thin slices of rye-bread, press them together, cut the sandwich in two, and serve. Americans as a class do not like caviare. According to Wikipedia, 1 salt spoon (ssp) = 0.25 teaspoon. The other recipe book has caviare-lobster sandwich (species unspecified; I assume sturgeon), roe sandwich (salt herring), and two types of shad-roe sandwiches (shad). See https://archive.org/details/uptodatesandwich00full/page/12/mode/2up https://archive.org/details/uptodatesandwich00full/page/12/m... . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caviar https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caviar mentions: > In Scandinavia, a type of sandwich spread is available, made from smoked cod roe and other ingredients, which is referred to as smörgåskaviar (meaning "sandwich caviar"). Outside Scandinavia, the product is referred to as creamed smoked roe or in French as Caviar de Lysekil. Perhaps the Swedish term "kaviar" doesn't overlap fully with the English term "caviar"? https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/kaviar#Swedish https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/kaviar#Swedish says: 1. caviar (roe of the sturgeon) 2. creamed smoked roe, Scandinavian sandwich caviar while https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/caviar#Noun https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/caviar#Noun says: 1. Roe of the sturgeon or of certain other large fish, considered a delicacy. 2. (figuratively) Something whose flavour is too fine for the vulgar taste.

stefantalpalaru 4y ago

0xbadcafebee 4y ago

Before the internet existed you could just say things confidently and nobody could check if you were right. Nowadays you check the internet and there's 100 blog posts backing up the lie. What a time to be alive.

wizofaus 4y ago
And for each of those blog posts, several others refuting them.
- trelane 4y ago
  and that's before we get to the comments
  - eesmith 4y ago
    This entire thread is comments. ;)
    - pcthrowaway 4y ago
      All the world's a comment section, and we are merely commentators
      - eesmith 4y ago
        To comment, or not to comment. That is the question. It was a comment written by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.
        0xbadcafebee 4y ago
        Now is the Eternal September of our discontent. Is this a comment box which I see before me, the submit button toward my hand?
      - trelane 4y ago