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So the ideal future is self-driving bikes that are in constant communication with each other and that ride themselves in peloton formation.

by Sakos 4y ago

klibertp 4y ago
I said it a few times before, but the advent of self-driving bikes is the earliest I'm going to ever ride a self-driving car. If the tech is good enough to balance all the forces that are at work when riding a bike in real time, and without adding 100kg to the weight of a bike, it'll be definitely good enough to drive a car.
- HPsquared 4y ago
  Self-driving is more about looking at the situation in front of you, assessing risks and deciding where to steer/accelerate/brake. Vehicle dynamics aren't really part of the equation (other than as performance limits).
cassepipe 4y ago
I'd day the future of locomotion is to connect the bikes together with rigid links and put them in line. But there is still the problem of potholes. But that can be avoided by replacing roads which have to be redone every year by something like tracks, then you don't even have to worry about direction and self-driving becomes easy. Sounds familiar to you ?
- Sakos 4y ago
  There is a convenience to personal vehicles (whether it's a bike or a car) that can't be completely replaced by public transportation.
  - cassepipe 4y ago
    I even would that there is personal convenience to personal vehicles. And nothing wrong with personal convenience but it's also true that some modern conveniences have a rather high cost in terms of negative externalities that I doubt we can afford any longer on this planet (yes I am looking at you, cars) while others not as much. I am not saying that from a moral standpoint, I really like personal convenience but I don't like it so much when other people lives are made miserable to support for my personal convenience. And I'd like to think that solutions that work for the collective can be optimized to be made more convenient for everyone.
    - Sakos 4y ago
      What do you have against bikes?
      - cassepipe 4y ago
        Nothing, really. You misunderstood me.

So the ideal future is self-driving bikes that are in constant communication with each other and that ride themselves in peloton formation.

by Sakos 4y ago

So the ideal future is self-driving bikes that are in constant communication with each other and that ride themselves in peloton formation.

klibertp 4y ago

I said it a few times before, but the advent of self-driving bikes is the earliest I'm going to ever ride a self-driving car. If the tech is good enough to balance all the forces that are at work when riding a bike in real time, and without adding 100kg to the weight of a bike, it'll be definitely good enough to drive a car.

HPsquared 4y ago
Self-driving is more about looking at the situation in front of you, assessing risks and deciding where to steer/accelerate/brake. Vehicle dynamics aren't really part of the equation (other than as performance limits).

cassepipe 4y ago

I'd day the future of locomotion is to connect the bikes together with rigid links and put them in line. But there is still the problem of potholes. But that can be avoided by replacing roads which have to be redone every year by something like tracks, then you don't even have to worry about direction and self-driving becomes easy. Sounds familiar to you ?

Sakos 4y ago
There is a convenience to personal vehicles (whether it's a bike or a car) that can't be completely replaced by public transportation.
- cassepipe 4y ago
  I even would that there is personal convenience to personal vehicles. And nothing wrong with personal convenience but it's also true that some modern conveniences have a rather high cost in terms of negative externalities that I doubt we can afford any longer on this planet (yes I am looking at you, cars) while others not as much. I am not saying that from a moral standpoint, I really like personal convenience but I don't like it so much when other people lives are made miserable to support for my personal convenience. And I'd like to think that solutions that work for the collective can be optimized to be made more convenient for everyone.
  - Sakos 4y ago
    What do you have against bikes?
    - cassepipe 4y ago
      Nothing, really. You misunderstood me.