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> Or maybe you land in a new country, the iPhone is like "hey I see you're in a new country, want a data package?" Does having a SIM tray stop you from replyin

> Or maybe you land in a new country, the iPhone is like "hey I see you're in a new country, want a data package?" Does having a SIM tray stop you from replying to that prompt? > and you could just opt-in to something straight from your phone and be connected before you even get off the plane without needing to buy a disposable SIM card. Does having a SIM tray remove your ability to choose? Meanwhile, people use multiple SIMs even without leaving their home town as some mobile internet providers offer better services than bundled voice+internet services, having to use multiple cellphone numbers is a reality, and actually subscribing to separate services in multiple countries is a thing as well. For instance, right now I have two SIM cards from two separate operators from two separate countries in one of my phones, and I would have a third if that was an option. Why is this suddenly a bad thing?

addicted 4y ago
One sees this logical fallacy so often with Apple and its fans. It’s almost certainly encouraged by Apple as well. Let’s say there’s a product that has 2 similar features A & B. For its next version of the product Apple removes feature B. Then folks complain about how there are things they cannot do because feature B is missing. The Apple fans respond by extolling the benefits of feature A. The problem is that I already had all those benefits of feature A when Apple shipped the product with both A and B. The Apple fans convert the actual argument, which is (A AND B) vs (Only A) into a strawman argument, which is (Only B) vs (Only A).
- ericmay 4y ago
  I think if folks really want the feature of a physical SIM card they have other phone options out there. Maybe it's something available from Samsung or Google? Personally I think going to another country and buying a disposable SIM card and hoping I don't lose my other one and all of these other things is much more of a hassle than something like landing, turning off airplane mode, and then just selecting a plan that works for me all set up with Apple Pay that I could have done before I even get off the plane. Then again, just using a carrier that has global coverage would be even better.

addicted 4y ago

One sees this logical fallacy so often with Apple and its fans. It’s almost certainly encouraged by Apple as well. Let’s say there’s a product that has 2 similar features A & B. For its next version of the product Apple removes feature B. Then folks complain about how there are things they cannot do because feature B is missing. The Apple fans respond by extolling the benefits of feature A. The problem is that I already had all those benefits of feature A when Apple shipped the product with both A and B. The Apple fans convert the actual argument, which is (A AND B) vs (Only A) into a strawman argument, which is (Only B) vs (Only A).

ericmay 4y ago
I think if folks really want the feature of a physical SIM card they have other phone options out there. Maybe it's something available from Samsung or Google? Personally I think going to another country and buying a disposable SIM card and hoping I don't lose my other one and all of these other things is much more of a hassle than something like landing, turning off airplane mode, and then just selecting a plan that works for me all set up with Apple Pay that I could have done before I even get off the plane. Then again, just using a carrier that has global coverage would be even better.