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I earned a ban for life on Facebook. A few years ago, I made an account with just my first name and two letters of last. Less than 24 hours later, I was banned,

by monkin 4y ago

I earned a ban for life on Facebook. A few years ago, I made an account with just my first name and two letters of last. Less than 24 hours later, I was banned, and they requested my ID. So I sent it to them. I was shocked when they got back to me with information that my last name isn’t the same as on the account, and they can’t verify it. Now, if I want to register a new account with a new e-mail and phone number, I also need to show my ID and get banned immediately. In 2012 my PayPal account was deleted after one of my clients reverted payment after getting source material. After contacting PayPal and telling them that I would go to court with that. After just seconds, I was signed out of an account, and it was gone. Nothing was associated with my e-mail address... :-) In the end, most likely every company does something like that. Maybe not on such a scale, but...

data_maan 4y ago
I'm surprised a human even read your mail. Perhaps there's a filter so that mails get forwarded tona human if the word "lawsuit" appears
frowin 4y ago
A friend wanted to register at facebook and his last name is "couple" in our language. Facebook shows an error claiming, that couples are not allowed to share an account - they should open separate accounts. So far so good. However, Facebook continued to refuse opening his account, even when he sent his id card. Now his last name are the two first letters of his last name which seems to be no violation :)
blitzar 4y ago
Get a fake ID with the two letter last name
- data_maan 4y ago
  Good one! :D I really do wonder what happens when someone uploads a fake ID. Can they catch that (after all, the check is probably automatic in most instances since they don't have the personell), and if they do, would they try to take that person to court?
  - blitzar 4y ago
    Whats the worst that they can do ... not let you have a facebook account?
    - data_maan 4y ago
      Not sure, they could take you to court for forging ID? But this is definitely something they can't do at scale, since their whole operation is set up to work at scale by automation. So with high probability I'd guess not having an account is the worst. But I may be wrong, maybe someone more knowledgeable can chime in.
      - akomtu 4y ago
        They cant take you to court without knowing who you are. What they can do is to refer your IP address to the FBI for "forging IDs", but even then the IP adress needs to be real and FBI must be overstaffed to deal with such matters.
  - aneeshnl 4y ago
    They can't do anything. I was not getting proper name in fb, so I changed my name in ID a bit using photoshop and they accepted without any issues. Just block out the ID numbers and all and how will they identity?
    - _nalply 4y ago
      Lycamobile Switzerland has an online ID verification where you are required to take a video with you and your ID and they give you instruction to move the ID card so that the holographic elements of the ID get verifiable.
      - bambax 4y ago
        Wow. Why would anyone subject to that? I think we're very near the point where a system can change letters and numbers on a moving ID in a video, if we're not there already. (And if one is patient enough, and the video is short enough, it's not impossible to do it by hand.)
darkhorn 4y ago
Iterestingly when I report obviousky fake accounts with obviously fake names related with Erdoğan supporters on Facebook they respond with "there is no violation, so we did nothing".
csdvrx 4y ago
> In 2012 my PayPal account was deleted after one of my clients reverted payment after getting source material. After contacting PayPal and telling them that I would go to court with that. After just seconds, I was signed out of an account, and it was gone. You should never ever say that! You either act, or you don't, but you don't "threaten". If you act (court), and then they act (deletion), it becomes a retaliation, which in itself is illegal - and therefore will not happen so easily.
- SpelingBeeChamp 4y ago
  >If you act (court), and then they act (deletion), it becomes a retaliation, which in itself is illegal - and therefore will not happen so easily. Retaliation is not illegal.

by monkin 4y ago

data_maan 4y ago

I'm surprised a human even read your mail. Perhaps there's a filter so that mails get forwarded tona human if the word "lawsuit" appears

frowin 4y ago

A friend wanted to register at facebook and his last name is "couple" in our language. Facebook shows an error claiming, that couples are not allowed to share an account - they should open separate accounts. So far so good. However, Facebook continued to refuse opening his account, even when he sent his id card. Now his last name are the two first letters of his last name which seems to be no violation :)

blitzar 4y ago

Get a fake ID with the two letter last name

data_maan 4y ago
Good one! :D I really do wonder what happens when someone uploads a fake ID. Can they catch that (after all, the check is probably automatic in most instances since they don't have the personell), and if they do, would they try to take that person to court?
- blitzar 4y ago
  Whats the worst that they can do ... not let you have a facebook account?
  - data_maan 4y ago
    Not sure, they could take you to court for forging ID? But this is definitely something they can't do at scale, since their whole operation is set up to work at scale by automation. So with high probability I'd guess not having an account is the worst. But I may be wrong, maybe someone more knowledgeable can chime in.
    - akomtu 4y ago
      They cant take you to court without knowing who you are. What they can do is to refer your IP address to the FBI for "forging IDs", but even then the IP adress needs to be real and FBI must be overstaffed to deal with such matters.
- aneeshnl 4y ago
  They can't do anything. I was not getting proper name in fb, so I changed my name in ID a bit using photoshop and they accepted without any issues. Just block out the ID numbers and all and how will they identity?
  - _nalply 4y ago
    Lycamobile Switzerland has an online ID verification where you are required to take a video with you and your ID and they give you instruction to move the ID card so that the holographic elements of the ID get verifiable.
    - bambax 4y ago
      Wow. Why would anyone subject to that? I think we're very near the point where a system can change letters and numbers on a moving ID in a video, if we're not there already. (And if one is patient enough, and the video is short enough, it's not impossible to do it by hand.)

darkhorn 4y ago

Iterestingly when I report obviousky fake accounts with obviously fake names related with Erdoğan supporters on Facebook they respond with "there is no violation, so we did nothing".

csdvrx 4y ago

> In 2012 my PayPal account was deleted after one of my clients reverted payment after getting source material. After contacting PayPal and telling them that I would go to court with that. After just seconds, I was signed out of an account, and it was gone. You should never ever say that! You either act, or you don't, but you don't "threaten". If you act (court), and then they act (deletion), it becomes a retaliation, which in itself is illegal - and therefore will not happen so easily.

SpelingBeeChamp 4y ago
>If you act (court), and then they act (deletion), it becomes a retaliation, which in itself is illegal - and therefore will not happen so easily. Retaliation is not illegal.