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I've lived many places in Europe and I'd say it's accurate. It's not that text messages aren't sent, it's just that they are only ever a fallback for when prim

by ratg13 4y ago

I've lived many places in Europe and I'd say it's accurate. It's not that text messages aren't sent, it's just that they are only ever a fallback for when primary communication channels are not available. Pretty much everyone's SMSes are just MFA codes, "your pizza is ready", "your package is delivered", and so on. Almost nobody that talks to each other regularly uses SMS.

izacus 4y ago
Again, that is nowhere near true and it's easy to verify. And we didn't even get to the point that the communications platform used instead of an open standard is owned by a single corporation - Facebook.
- marginalia_nu 4y ago
  Really? I'm yet another European who only ever gets SMS from my elderly mother, for 2FA (usually only when dealing with American companies), parcel deliveries, and so on. Oh, and spam and frauds, that's like 75% of the messages I get.
  - hulitu 4y ago
    Come to Germany. Enjoy the power of digital communication. I work in a town close to the city center in a new building and i have to go to a certain window to be able to talk on the phone. To have cellular data i have to go out of the building.
    - kioleanu 4y ago
      I had the same problem when using Aldi Talk, switched to Telekom and it's much better, but I am at the edge of the coverage area. I've seen it on the phones of the people that were visting me that Vodafone works much better in the house, but I don't want to work with them
    - pjmlp 4y ago
      Isn't it great only being able to use data plans on the train when they stop at a station?
  - arinlen 4y ago
    > I'm yet another European who only ever gets SMS from my elderly mother, for 2FA (usually only when dealing with American companies), parcel deliveries, and so on. I'm yet another European and even though apps like WhatsApp and Signal are very popular, SMS is still used very often. Apps like WhatsApp do have an advantage like better UX, group chat, better allowlists, online presence status indicators, multimedia support, and multi-platform support.
- redox99 4y ago
  Can you show such verification? I'm from Argentina and here absolutely nobody uses SMS. As parent said, it's only used for 2FA, delivery notifications, etc (although some companies here do 2FA with whatsapp too).
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- kioleanu 4y ago
  I am also very interested in data to support your claim. I offered my anecdotical experience and you're saying (quite aggressively) that that is objectively not true. Can you please provide a comparison between the # of messages sent as SMS and messages sent through Whatsapp and other services?
arinlen 4y ago
> Almost nobody that talks to each other regularly uses SMS. OP claims no one uses SMS at, and your reply was "I agree, no one uses SMS except for all these reasons they message all the time". Also, it makes no sense to claim that no one uses SMS just because some people also use another means of communication like WhatsApp or email. It would make as much sense as claiming no one uses WhatsApp because they spend more time on Instagram or Twitter.

by ratg13 4y ago

izacus 4y ago

Again, that is nowhere near true and it's easy to verify. And we didn't even get to the point that the communications platform used instead of an open standard is owned by a single corporation - Facebook.

marginalia_nu 4y ago
Really? I'm yet another European who only ever gets SMS from my elderly mother, for 2FA (usually only when dealing with American companies), parcel deliveries, and so on. Oh, and spam and frauds, that's like 75% of the messages I get.
- hulitu 4y ago
  Come to Germany. Enjoy the power of digital communication. I work in a town close to the city center in a new building and i have to go to a certain window to be able to talk on the phone. To have cellular data i have to go out of the building.
  - kioleanu 4y ago
    I had the same problem when using Aldi Talk, switched to Telekom and it's much better, but I am at the edge of the coverage area. I've seen it on the phones of the people that were visting me that Vodafone works much better in the house, but I don't want to work with them
  - pjmlp 4y ago
    Isn't it great only being able to use data plans on the train when they stop at a station?
- arinlen 4y ago
  > I'm yet another European who only ever gets SMS from my elderly mother, for 2FA (usually only when dealing with American companies), parcel deliveries, and so on. I'm yet another European and even though apps like WhatsApp and Signal are very popular, SMS is still used very often. Apps like WhatsApp do have an advantage like better UX, group chat, better allowlists, online presence status indicators, multimedia support, and multi-platform support.
redox99 4y ago
Can you show such verification? I'm from Argentina and here absolutely nobody uses SMS. As parent said, it's only used for 2FA, delivery notifications, etc (although some companies here do 2FA with whatsapp too).
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kioleanu 4y ago
I am also very interested in data to support your claim. I offered my anecdotical experience and you're saying (quite aggressively) that that is objectively not true. Can you please provide a comparison between the # of messages sent as SMS and messages sent through Whatsapp and other services?

arinlen 4y ago

> Almost nobody that talks to each other regularly uses SMS. OP claims no one uses SMS at, and your reply was "I agree, no one uses SMS except for all these reasons they message all the time". Also, it makes no sense to claim that no one uses SMS just because some people also use another means of communication like WhatsApp or email. It would make as much sense as claiming no one uses WhatsApp because they spend more time on Instagram or Twitter.