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This is basically colocation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colocation_centre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colocation_centre

anon291 4y ago
Yes exactly, but instead of having to find a server, order it and ship it. the colo center also acts as a vendor of pre-built servers. So instead of Amazon keeping thousands of servers ready for you to rent at any time, I'd keep servers ready for you to buy at anytime. You pay $4000 say for the server. Now you own it. Then you pay me $100 / month. We depreciate the server. If after three months you think you're done, we give you $3800 back. So your cost was $200/month. Same as AWS, except you own the server. Also, better for your taxes, because unlike cloud services, actual hardware depreciation is a tax loss. Since you own the server at all times, and are just renting from me for the actual connection, you can decide to simply remove the server at any time (and then I keep the $4000, like a normal purchase). Or, if I decide I disagree with what you're hosting, I will pull the plug, but the server is yours. Unlike amazon, since you own the server, I cannot seize it and terminate your data, as Amazon did with Parler, for example. Moreover, unlike Amazon, the government cannot 'request' that they see what's on my disks or server. The government actually cannot compel me to turn over any incriminating data (fifth amendment) about myself, whereas they can compel Amazon to. This arrangement gives you the same kinds of rights you get as a tenant in a normal rental situation, rather than the 'big multinational conglomerate owns everything' situation we have no.
- intelVISA 4y ago
  I could be wrong but some colo places offer this as it's not super uncommon.
- harvey9 4y ago
  "Moreover, unlike Amazon, the government cannot 'request' that they see what's on my disks or server. " Can you clarify, are these the customer's disks at this point?
  - anon291 4y ago
    Yes, you bought a server from me and are renting space to keep it in my facilities. Just because the seller and renter are the same doesn't mean the disks aren't yours. Whereas, on Amazon I don't own the disks S3 is on.

anon291 4y ago

Yes exactly, but instead of having to find a server, order it and ship it. the colo center also acts as a vendor of pre-built servers. So instead of Amazon keeping thousands of servers ready for you to rent at any time, I'd keep servers ready for you to buy at anytime. You pay $4000 say for the server. Now you own it. Then you pay me $100 / month. We depreciate the server. If after three months you think you're done, we give you $3800 back. So your cost was $200/month. Same as AWS, except you own the server. Also, better for your taxes, because unlike cloud services, actual hardware depreciation is a tax loss. Since you own the server at all times, and are just renting from me for the actual connection, you can decide to simply remove the server at any time (and then I keep the $4000, like a normal purchase). Or, if I decide I disagree with what you're hosting, I will pull the plug, but the server is yours. Unlike amazon, since you own the server, I cannot seize it and terminate your data, as Amazon did with Parler, for example. Moreover, unlike Amazon, the government cannot 'request' that they see what's on my disks or server. The government actually cannot compel me to turn over any incriminating data (fifth amendment) about myself, whereas they can compel Amazon to. This arrangement gives you the same kinds of rights you get as a tenant in a normal rental situation, rather than the 'big multinational conglomerate owns everything' situation we have no.

intelVISA 4y ago
I could be wrong but some colo places offer this as it's not super uncommon.
harvey9 4y ago
"Moreover, unlike Amazon, the government cannot 'request' that they see what's on my disks or server. " Can you clarify, are these the customer's disks at this point?
- anon291 4y ago
  Yes, you bought a server from me and are renting space to keep it in my facilities. Just because the seller and renter are the same doesn't mean the disks aren't yours. Whereas, on Amazon I don't own the disks S3 is on.