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IMO Firefox on an Android is better than anything you can get on iOS. It fully supports uBlock Origin! I also use a Pixel phone, though I use LineageOS so I fe

IMO Firefox on an Android is better than anything you can get on iOS. It fully supports uBlock Origin! I also use a Pixel phone, though I use LineageOS so I feel less tied to Google

carom 4y ago
I came from Android, while I agree with Firefox + ublock supremacy, I've been using Sarai with Ad Guard Pro (VPN based) and it has been good.
midoridensha 4y ago
I find Firefox on Android to completely unusable for many of the sites I visit because it doesn't support the Google Translate plugin for some completely idiotic reason. I can only use it on sites that are in English. For everything else, I have to use Chrome.
- yoasif_ 4y ago
  You can enable translation on Firefox Nightly - I blogged about this (and other) extensions: https://www.quippd.com/writing/2022/01/26/most-wanted-add-ons-firefox-android-part-1.html#translation https://www.quippd.com/writing/2022/01/26/most-wanted-add-on...
  - midoridensha 4y ago
    I have Firefox Nightly, and it still shows the same small handful of extensions as regular Firefox. Is there some secret menu I have to go to or something? Honestly, this is ridiculous, and it's pretty obvious that Mozilla simply does not want us using any other extensions. They have no right to complain when I use Chrome instead. I need translation just to survive and pay my bills.
    - yoasif_ 4y ago
      > Is there some secret menu I have to go to or something? Kind of. See the setup section: https://www.quippd.com/writing/2022/01/26/most-wanted-add-ons-firefox-android-part-1.html#setup https://www.quippd.com/writing/2022/01/26/most-wanted-add-on...
redox99 4y ago
I find firefox on android unusable because it has this awful, non-native scroll behavior. On android I use either Brave or Samsung Browser.
- easrng 4y ago
  Check out https://www.bromite.org/ https://www.bromite.org/, it's a android chromium fork with adblocking built in like brave but without the crypto stuff. Also has support for userscripts!
  - denkmoon 4y ago
    Chromium and therefore still encumbered by this poor Manifest v3 behaviour.
    - easrng 4y ago
      It doesn't have extension support so that's not relevant.
- cycomanic 4y ago
  What do you mean by non-native scroll behavior? I'm asking seriously, never noticed anything.
  - idsout 4y ago
    Also wondering. I've been using Firefox on Android for at least a couple years now. Works fine for me
    - just_boost_it 4y ago
      Ditto for me.
  - qu4z-2 4y ago
    I'm not the GP but I've noticed since the switch over to "New" Android Firefox (Fenix or whatever?) scroll events aren't handled properly. That is, dragging your finger around on the screen works, but any other source (keyboard, for example) does nothing. Maybe that's what they were referring to; maybe they have a different issue.
jorvi 4y ago
To be clear: it is a willful choice by Mozilla to fully protect Android users but to leave iOS users in the turmoil of a constant stream of invasive and malicious ads. I specifically took my parents off of Firefox for this express reason. Brave has a built-in adblocker, as do many other iOS browsers. And it is not like Mozilla isn’t aware, I believe there are 2-3 open issues on Bugzilla, years old, that have just been left to wither.
- jdmichal 4y ago
  Isn't there some rule that any browser on iOS must use the native Safari engine? So if iOS Safari doesn't support something, there's no way for Firefox to add that support. It's basically just a skin.
  - jorvi 4y ago
    Yes, but like I said, many other 3rd-party browsers have perfectly fine built-in adblockers. Hell, you can install Firefox Focus (which is a ‘private mode only’ browser) and that does have built-in adblocking. More perversely, you can use it as a content blocker for Safari. (No, other browsers using Safari’s engine do not inherit the content blocking) I repeat: Mozilla is willfully choosing not to protect iOS Firefox users from ads. Plain and simple.
- taneq 4y ago
  What? Install Firefox Focus on iOS. Use it directly, or select it as a content blocking provider for Safari to get ad blocking in Safari.
babypuncher 4y ago
I don't think their reasoning for switching to iOS was because of Chrome specifically, it was because of Google as a whole. There are browsers for iOS with really good ad and tracker blocking. I use Orion, whose blockers are based on uBlock.
- agiacalone 4y ago
  iOS user here. I forgo the on-device ad-blocking and use DNS blocking. It's a decent catch-all for most things I'm worried about. NextDNS is one of the better hosted DNS blocklists, IMO

IMO Firefox on an Android is better than anything you can get on iOS. It fully supports uBlock Origin! I also use a Pixel phone, though I use LineageOS so I feel less tied to Google

carom 4y ago

I came from Android, while I agree with Firefox + ublock supremacy, I've been using Sarai with Ad Guard Pro (VPN based) and it has been good.

midoridensha 4y ago

I find Firefox on Android to completely unusable for many of the sites I visit because it doesn't support the Google Translate plugin for some completely idiotic reason. I can only use it on sites that are in English. For everything else, I have to use Chrome.

yoasif_ 4y ago
You can enable translation on Firefox Nightly - I blogged about this (and other) extensions: https://www.quippd.com/writing/2022/01/26/most-wanted-add-ons-firefox-android-part-1.html#translation https://www.quippd.com/writing/2022/01/26/most-wanted-add-on...
- midoridensha 4y ago
  I have Firefox Nightly, and it still shows the same small handful of extensions as regular Firefox. Is there some secret menu I have to go to or something? Honestly, this is ridiculous, and it's pretty obvious that Mozilla simply does not want us using any other extensions. They have no right to complain when I use Chrome instead. I need translation just to survive and pay my bills.
  - yoasif_ 4y ago
    > Is there some secret menu I have to go to or something? Kind of. See the setup section: https://www.quippd.com/writing/2022/01/26/most-wanted-add-ons-firefox-android-part-1.html#setup https://www.quippd.com/writing/2022/01/26/most-wanted-add-on...

redox99 4y ago

I find firefox on android unusable because it has this awful, non-native scroll behavior. On android I use either Brave or Samsung Browser.

easrng 4y ago
Check out https://www.bromite.org/ https://www.bromite.org/, it's a android chromium fork with adblocking built in like brave but without the crypto stuff. Also has support for userscripts!
- denkmoon 4y ago
  Chromium and therefore still encumbered by this poor Manifest v3 behaviour.
  - easrng 4y ago
    It doesn't have extension support so that's not relevant.
cycomanic 4y ago
What do you mean by non-native scroll behavior? I'm asking seriously, never noticed anything.
- idsout 4y ago
  Also wondering. I've been using Firefox on Android for at least a couple years now. Works fine for me
  - just_boost_it 4y ago
    Ditto for me.
- qu4z-2 4y ago
  I'm not the GP but I've noticed since the switch over to "New" Android Firefox (Fenix or whatever?) scroll events aren't handled properly. That is, dragging your finger around on the screen works, but any other source (keyboard, for example) does nothing. Maybe that's what they were referring to; maybe they have a different issue.

jorvi 4y ago

To be clear: it is a willful choice by Mozilla to fully protect Android users but to leave iOS users in the turmoil of a constant stream of invasive and malicious ads. I specifically took my parents off of Firefox for this express reason. Brave has a built-in adblocker, as do many other iOS browsers. And it is not like Mozilla isn’t aware, I believe there are 2-3 open issues on Bugzilla, years old, that have just been left to wither.

jdmichal 4y ago
Isn't there some rule that any browser on iOS must use the native Safari engine? So if iOS Safari doesn't support something, there's no way for Firefox to add that support. It's basically just a skin.
- jorvi 4y ago
  Yes, but like I said, many other 3rd-party browsers have perfectly fine built-in adblockers. Hell, you can install Firefox Focus (which is a ‘private mode only’ browser) and that does have built-in adblocking. More perversely, you can use it as a content blocker for Safari. (No, other browsers using Safari’s engine do not inherit the content blocking) I repeat: Mozilla is willfully choosing not to protect iOS Firefox users from ads. Plain and simple.
taneq 4y ago
What? Install Firefox Focus on iOS. Use it directly, or select it as a content blocking provider for Safari to get ad blocking in Safari.

babypuncher 4y ago

I don't think their reasoning for switching to iOS was because of Chrome specifically, it was because of Google as a whole. There are browsers for iOS with really good ad and tracker blocking. I use Orion, whose blockers are based on uBlock.

agiacalone 4y ago
iOS user here. I forgo the on-device ad-blocking and use DNS blocking. It's a decent catch-all for most things I'm worried about. NextDNS is one of the better hosted DNS blocklists, IMO