I'm not a troll, I'm familiar with these tools. I've even written a prototype of a web application(IDE). And I know very well how much it is pain in the ass to

I'm not a troll, I'm familiar with these tools. I've even written a prototype of a web application(IDE). And I know very well how much it is pain in the ass to develop using web technologies, compared to proper frameworks(.NET, Qt, Cocoa, you name it). Web technologies are the least common denominator, something that is more or less supported by everyone, but sucks compared to good tools. Of course if you really try - you can build something great with it(Google Docs, GMail, Cloud9 and many other amazing apps). But it requires 10 times more effort compared to good tools. The advantages of the web are not the technologies it's implemented with, but very founding things like URL, instant delivery of content and applications. All of that is completely unrelated to the current technology stack. Google is a good example for you. They are probably the most experienced people out there in creating complex web applications. And yet they are the ones who try to bring technologies to replace them - Native Client, Dart programming language. And you not even contradicting me, by saying "What's your solution? Replacement languages for HTML, CSS, and JavaScript so that not only do we all have to start from scratch with new languages but then wait even longer for browser support?" Yes, web stack is the current state of affairs. And it will take some strong man with balls to get rid of it and build a better new world. And yes, there are better technologies than that - a good example is QML for example. And I am by far not the only one who isn't satisfied.