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Apple, for iOS 17 can you please let me freely rearrange the apps on the screen? Having them shuffle every time I add or remove an app is really a pain

ChuckNorris89 4y ago
- dewey 4y ago
  You can rearrange apps on their screen, you just can't have gaps between them or move them "freely" in a way that they alwasy snap to an invisible grid...which isn't really something I have thought about ever.
  - teekert 4y ago
    I got used to it (especially when things are settled) but when you are fresh from android it can be annoying that you have to fill the top rows before your can place your fav apps within reach of your thumb. It feels very wrong.
    - mikestew 4y ago
      Use blank icons to fill in the rows. Kludgy? Sure, but it gets the job done: https://david-smith.org/blank.html https://david-smith.org/blank.html
  - oneeyedpigeon 4y ago
    I'm guessing the problem is a UX one. If, by deleting an app, all your app icons shift position by one, that'll ruin your spatial memory.
- permo-w 4y ago
  they mean they can’t have an app floating in space not in a nice pretty queue next to another app. not that they can’t rearrange them at all
- jdlyga 4y ago
  You've been able to move apps around pretty easily for at least a decade. You can even remove them and just access them from the app drawer or have multiple copies on the same page. What he's talking about is not have them snap to an app grid.
- dang 4y ago
  If you keep posting in the flamewar style to HN, we're going to have to ban you. I just asked you about this the other day: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32718712 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32718712. If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting here, we'd appreciate it.
  - ChuckNorris89 4y ago
    >I just asked you about this the other day: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32718712 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32718712 Sorry, my bad, I didn't see your other message since it got buried in hundreds of nested replies and there's no way I was gonna see it. Also, what guidelines did the other message it break?
    - nabakin 4y ago
      Being rude and insulting, I'm sure. Read the guidelines for comments, your comment violates almost all of the top rules. > Be kind. Don't be snarky. Have curious conversation; don't cross-examine. Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community. > Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive > When disagreeing, please reply to the argument instead of calling names. > Eschew flamebait > Please don't post shallow dismissals
      - ChuckNorris89 4y ago
        >Being rude and insulting, I'm sure. And exact which part was rude and insulting? > Be kind. Don't be snarky. Have curious conversation; don't cross-examine. Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community. > Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive > When disagreeing, please reply to the argument instead of calling names. > Eschew flamebait > Please don't post shallow dismissals Many comments on HN break at some of those rules you listed on a regular basis, especially on topics that spark a lot of debate, yet they fly. Even racist ones. Why? Saying my comment breaks all those rules, you must be joking. If you start to split hairs like that and look for interpretations out of context (which I assume my comment was read out of context, without following the full thread) then I'm pretty sure many, may comments here can be said break some rules. Look, I mean no disrespect, and I have apologized and corrected my mistake, and I promise I try my best to follow the rules as I love this community and love contributing here for the best, but what you said and what I experienced sometimes, feels like rule enforcement is random, subjective and sometimes personally targeted. Since this is offtopic and don't want to discuss this here, @dang, could you please delete this thread.
giarc 4y ago
I'd like to be able to log into my Apple ID account and do this on a PC. I hate sliding them around various pages with my finger.
- jacobn 4y ago
  I thought that was available via iTunes on Windows?
- layer8 4y ago
  It used to be possible with iTunes, but they removed that feature in 12.7.
- kshacker 4y ago
  And I think years back you used to be able to do it from iTunes when the phone was connected with a wire. It disappeared over the years probably when they moved to Finder, but I think maybe even earlier.
  - astrange 4y ago
    You can do it with Apple Configurator, and there's a command line tool to apply a JSON layout.
easrng 4y ago
There are a few workarounds. Clear Spaces https://apps.apple.com/us/app/clear-spaces/id1532666619 https://apps.apple.com/us/app/clear-spaces/id1532666619 iEmpty https://iempty.tooliphone.net/ https://iempty.tooliphone.net/ MAKEOVR https://www.makeovr.io/ https://www.makeovr.io/
thedougd 4y ago
Most painful part of switching from an Android phone. I could always find an app, alphabetically, in one swipe from whatever I was doing.
- dntrkv 4y ago
  Swipe down on the home screen and type in the app name.
  - Y-bar 4y ago
    On iOS you can also tap on the "search" button on the lower part of the screen above the dock. Or you could swipe to the rightmost pane where apps are sorted alphabetically.

ChuckNorris89 4y ago

dewey 4y ago
You can rearrange apps on their screen, you just can't have gaps between them or move them "freely" in a way that they alwasy snap to an invisible grid...which isn't really something I have thought about ever.
- teekert 4y ago
  I got used to it (especially when things are settled) but when you are fresh from android it can be annoying that you have to fill the top rows before your can place your fav apps within reach of your thumb. It feels very wrong.
  - mikestew 4y ago
    Use blank icons to fill in the rows. Kludgy? Sure, but it gets the job done: https://david-smith.org/blank.html https://david-smith.org/blank.html
- oneeyedpigeon 4y ago
  I'm guessing the problem is a UX one. If, by deleting an app, all your app icons shift position by one, that'll ruin your spatial memory.
permo-w 4y ago
they mean they can’t have an app floating in space not in a nice pretty queue next to another app. not that they can’t rearrange them at all
jdlyga 4y ago
You've been able to move apps around pretty easily for at least a decade. You can even remove them and just access them from the app drawer or have multiple copies on the same page. What he's talking about is not have them snap to an app grid.
dang 4y ago
If you keep posting in the flamewar style to HN, we're going to have to ban you. I just asked you about this the other day: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32718712 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32718712. If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting here, we'd appreciate it.
- ChuckNorris89 4y ago
  >I just asked you about this the other day: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32718712 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32718712 Sorry, my bad, I didn't see your other message since it got buried in hundreds of nested replies and there's no way I was gonna see it. Also, what guidelines did the other message it break?
  - nabakin 4y ago
    Being rude and insulting, I'm sure. Read the guidelines for comments, your comment violates almost all of the top rules. > Be kind. Don't be snarky. Have curious conversation; don't cross-examine. Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community. > Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive > When disagreeing, please reply to the argument instead of calling names. > Eschew flamebait > Please don't post shallow dismissals
    - ChuckNorris89 4y ago
      >Being rude and insulting, I'm sure. And exact which part was rude and insulting? > Be kind. Don't be snarky. Have curious conversation; don't cross-examine. Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community. > Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive > When disagreeing, please reply to the argument instead of calling names. > Eschew flamebait > Please don't post shallow dismissals Many comments on HN break at some of those rules you listed on a regular basis, especially on topics that spark a lot of debate, yet they fly. Even racist ones. Why? Saying my comment breaks all those rules, you must be joking. If you start to split hairs like that and look for interpretations out of context (which I assume my comment was read out of context, without following the full thread) then I'm pretty sure many, may comments here can be said break some rules. Look, I mean no disrespect, and I have apologized and corrected my mistake, and I promise I try my best to follow the rules as I love this community and love contributing here for the best, but what you said and what I experienced sometimes, feels like rule enforcement is random, subjective and sometimes personally targeted. Since this is offtopic and don't want to discuss this here, @dang, could you please delete this thread.

giarc 4y ago

I'd like to be able to log into my Apple ID account and do this on a PC. I hate sliding them around various pages with my finger.

jacobn 4y ago
I thought that was available via iTunes on Windows?
layer8 4y ago
It used to be possible with iTunes, but they removed that feature in 12.7.
kshacker 4y ago
And I think years back you used to be able to do it from iTunes when the phone was connected with a wire. It disappeared over the years probably when they moved to Finder, but I think maybe even earlier.
- astrange 4y ago
  You can do it with Apple Configurator, and there's a command line tool to apply a JSON layout.

easrng 4y ago

There are a few workarounds. Clear Spaces https://apps.apple.com/us/app/clear-spaces/id1532666619 https://apps.apple.com/us/app/clear-spaces/id1532666619 iEmpty https://iempty.tooliphone.net/ https://iempty.tooliphone.net/ MAKEOVR https://www.makeovr.io/ https://www.makeovr.io/

thedougd 4y ago

Most painful part of switching from an Android phone. I could always find an app, alphabetically, in one swipe from whatever I was doing.

dntrkv 4y ago
Swipe down on the home screen and type in the app name.
- Y-bar 4y ago
  On iOS you can also tap on the "search" button on the lower part of the screen above the dock. Or you could swipe to the rightmost pane where apps are sorted alphabetically.