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What are the benefits over iPhone 13 for people outside the US who can’t use the satellite feature ? Think I’ll just get a 13 on sale

xattt 4y ago
13 mini would sound like a bargain!
- rcarr 4y ago
  Have they even dropped the price? They're £649 for the base model in the UK but I'm not sure how much they were yesterday. I was expecting around £100 off last year but apparently not.
  - berkut 4y ago
    In NZ, the 13 Mini (which I'm tempted to get this week, upgrading from a 6S) is reduced by $50. $1,449 -> $1,399 for the 256 GB model.
    - rcarr 4y ago
      I was thinking of getting a mini but this all feels a bit weak sauce, I might just wait until next year and squeeze the final year out of my 8 plus even though its battery life is absolutely dire.
      - makeitdouble 4y ago
        Wouldn’t it be worth it to just change the battery ?
  - mdasen 4y ago
    The iPhone 13 mini was £679 and the iPhone 13 was £779 and today it's £649 and £749. They've discounted it by £30. That might seem small, but the pound has lost 17% of its value over the past year (relative to the dollar). Last year you would have paid (in dollars) $937 or $1,075 for the iPhone 13 mini or iPhone 13. Today, you're paying $746 or $861 so they've discounted it by $191 or $214 (including the change in value of the pound) which is a pretty substantial discount. You can see this in the new pricing too. The iPhone 13 was £779, but the iPhone 14 is £849. That's an increase of £70 (9%) in pounds, but a drop of $99 (9%) in dollars. Presumably, Apple is willing to eat a bit of exchange-rate fluctuations. Likewise, the iPhone 13 Pro was £949, but the iPhone 14 Pro is £1,099 - an increase of £150 (16%), but a decrease of $46 (3%) in dollars. Before someone says "Apple is always overcharging UK customers - $1075 for an iPhone 13 compared to $800 in the US," it's important to note that different countries have very different regulations, fees, import tariffs, and taxes. I believe VAT in the UK is 20%. Yes, they have dropped the price. It doesn't seem like much of a drop because most of the price decrease is in the fact that the pound has lost so much value. It's £100 cheaper than the iPhone 14 (which is what you were expecting), but it's only £30 cheaper than the iPhone 13 was a day ago (presumably in large part due to the fact that the pound is worth so much less now than a year ago).
    - rcarr 4y ago
      This makes sense, great comment.
rcarr 4y ago
The "action" camera mode (basically gimbal replacement) looked pretty good if you were a film maker/Youtuber. And "multiple eSims" might be useful if you're a traveller/digital nomad as you were previously limited to two. But yeah, other than that it did seem a bit sparse on new features this year. Hopefully next years will be a big one to make up for it?
- BonoboIO 4y ago
  Don’t forget about the car crash mode ... what a joke.
- tgsovlerkhgsel 4y ago
  Does it support more than two active ones, or was it previously limited to only be able to store two in total?
- smileybarry 4y ago
  I still haven’t looked into it much but IIRC iPhone 12 & iPhone 13 could already save multiple eSIMs, while 13 could activate 2 at the same time. I think it was up to 8 (or 10) saved eSIMs?
  - rcarr 4y ago
    If this is true it may sway me to getting an iPhone 13, I want to do some travelling in the future so being able to have multiple e-sims saved would be beneficial. I thought that it seemed a bit odd that you could only have two of something that was completely digital but makes much more sense if it's only two active SIMs at once.
    - smileybarry 4y ago
      Yeah, after I wrote that comment I went looking for actual info on eSIM differences on iPhone 14, but there isn’t really any. Support articles aren’t up yet and the asterisk/note is just a basic eSIM disclaimer. I think that bit along with SIM slot removal is just a push towards eSIM.
  - 4y ago
okyanusoz 4y ago
Crash detection, maybe?
- kushan2020 4y ago
  Check list for a car crash in 2022: - have the latest and greatest iPhone - crash only in apple approved countries, because apparently car crashes are specific to countries. - improve your crash experience by buying an Apple Watch ultra for better detection. — pray to Tim Apple that the algorithm detects your crash.
wilsonnb3 4y ago
The 14 has the higher binned A15 processor from the 13 Pro, which may mean that it has 6 gigs of RAM like the 13 pro rather than 4 gigs like the 13. Plus it comes in purple.
- mbrndtgn 4y ago
  I would wait until it's actually confirmed that it has 6 GB of RAM. There is also an A15 in the iPad mini 6 which is based on the A15 in the 13 Pro, but with only 4 GB RAM. If this is the case a discounted 13 Pro could actually be the better option (also because of the 120 Hz screen).
  - wilsonnb3 4y ago
    That's a good point. According to wikipedia, there are 3 different A15 chips already. The iPhone 13 and 13 mini have 2.93ghz high power cores and 2.02ghz low power cores. The iPad Mini 6 has the same 2.93ghz high power cores and underclocked 1.82ghz low power cores, I believe because of the extra heat from the larger screen. The iPhone 13 Pro and Pro Max have higher clocked 3.23ghz high power cores and the same 2.02ghz low power cores as the regular iPhone 13. The iPhone Pro's also have the extra 2GB of ram compares to the others and the iPhone 13/13 Mini are the only ones with the 4 core GPU rather than the 5 core GPU. All we know now for sure about the iPhone 14 and 14 Plus are that they will have the 5 core GPU. We will have to wait for a hands on to know more about the specifics of the A15 they are using. That said, I doubt that they will have the underclocked low power cores that they iPad Mini 6 has so I think the path of least resistance is for them to take the same A15 from the 13 Pro, with more RAM and overclocked high power cores, and just keep using it in the iPhone 14. Otherwise they have to introduce a fourth A15 variant which seems like more work than using one they already are manufacturing. I don't know shit about CPU manufacturing though so I am mostly just talking out of my ass.
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kemayo 4y ago
Camera sensor specs got a significant bump if you're looking at the 14 Pro. The 13 is a 12MP sensor, the 14 Pro is a 48MP sensor. Comparing the base 13 and 14 the only real hardware difference is that the selfie camera picked up autofocus and has an aperture change. There's a very minor aperture change to the main camera lens, but I'm not sure whether it's significant. Again with the 14 Pro, the always on display is a definite change. Probably depends on your own usage patterns whether it'd actually make a practical difference for you. Apple's comparison tool is actually pretty useful for this stuff: https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/?modelList=iphone13,iphone14,iphone14pro https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/?modelList=iphone13,iph...

xattt 4y ago

13 mini would sound like a bargain!

rcarr 4y ago
Have they even dropped the price? They're £649 for the base model in the UK but I'm not sure how much they were yesterday. I was expecting around £100 off last year but apparently not.
- berkut 4y ago
  In NZ, the 13 Mini (which I'm tempted to get this week, upgrading from a 6S) is reduced by $50. $1,449 -> $1,399 for the 256 GB model.
  - rcarr 4y ago
    I was thinking of getting a mini but this all feels a bit weak sauce, I might just wait until next year and squeeze the final year out of my 8 plus even though its battery life is absolutely dire.
    - makeitdouble 4y ago
      Wouldn’t it be worth it to just change the battery ?
- mdasen 4y ago
  The iPhone 13 mini was £679 and the iPhone 13 was £779 and today it's £649 and £749. They've discounted it by £30. That might seem small, but the pound has lost 17% of its value over the past year (relative to the dollar). Last year you would have paid (in dollars) $937 or $1,075 for the iPhone 13 mini or iPhone 13. Today, you're paying $746 or $861 so they've discounted it by $191 or $214 (including the change in value of the pound) which is a pretty substantial discount. You can see this in the new pricing too. The iPhone 13 was £779, but the iPhone 14 is £849. That's an increase of £70 (9%) in pounds, but a drop of $99 (9%) in dollars. Presumably, Apple is willing to eat a bit of exchange-rate fluctuations. Likewise, the iPhone 13 Pro was £949, but the iPhone 14 Pro is £1,099 - an increase of £150 (16%), but a decrease of $46 (3%) in dollars. Before someone says "Apple is always overcharging UK customers - $1075 for an iPhone 13 compared to $800 in the US," it's important to note that different countries have very different regulations, fees, import tariffs, and taxes. I believe VAT in the UK is 20%. Yes, they have dropped the price. It doesn't seem like much of a drop because most of the price decrease is in the fact that the pound has lost so much value. It's £100 cheaper than the iPhone 14 (which is what you were expecting), but it's only £30 cheaper than the iPhone 13 was a day ago (presumably in large part due to the fact that the pound is worth so much less now than a year ago).
  - rcarr 4y ago
    This makes sense, great comment.

rcarr 4y ago

The "action" camera mode (basically gimbal replacement) looked pretty good if you were a film maker/Youtuber. And "multiple eSims" might be useful if you're a traveller/digital nomad as you were previously limited to two. But yeah, other than that it did seem a bit sparse on new features this year. Hopefully next years will be a big one to make up for it?

BonoboIO 4y ago
Don’t forget about the car crash mode ... what a joke.
tgsovlerkhgsel 4y ago
Does it support more than two active ones, or was it previously limited to only be able to store two in total?
smileybarry 4y ago
I still haven’t looked into it much but IIRC iPhone 12 & iPhone 13 could already save multiple eSIMs, while 13 could activate 2 at the same time. I think it was up to 8 (or 10) saved eSIMs?
- rcarr 4y ago
  If this is true it may sway me to getting an iPhone 13, I want to do some travelling in the future so being able to have multiple e-sims saved would be beneficial. I thought that it seemed a bit odd that you could only have two of something that was completely digital but makes much more sense if it's only two active SIMs at once.
  - smileybarry 4y ago
    Yeah, after I wrote that comment I went looking for actual info on eSIM differences on iPhone 14, but there isn’t really any. Support articles aren’t up yet and the asterisk/note is just a basic eSIM disclaimer. I think that bit along with SIM slot removal is just a push towards eSIM.
- 4y ago

okyanusoz 4y ago

Crash detection, maybe?

kushan2020 4y ago
Check list for a car crash in 2022: - have the latest and greatest iPhone - crash only in apple approved countries, because apparently car crashes are specific to countries. - improve your crash experience by buying an Apple Watch ultra for better detection. — pray to Tim Apple that the algorithm detects your crash.

wilsonnb3 4y ago

The 14 has the higher binned A15 processor from the 13 Pro, which may mean that it has 6 gigs of RAM like the 13 pro rather than 4 gigs like the 13. Plus it comes in purple.

mbrndtgn 4y ago
I would wait until it's actually confirmed that it has 6 GB of RAM. There is also an A15 in the iPad mini 6 which is based on the A15 in the 13 Pro, but with only 4 GB RAM. If this is the case a discounted 13 Pro could actually be the better option (also because of the 120 Hz screen).
- wilsonnb3 4y ago
  That's a good point. According to wikipedia, there are 3 different A15 chips already. The iPhone 13 and 13 mini have 2.93ghz high power cores and 2.02ghz low power cores. The iPad Mini 6 has the same 2.93ghz high power cores and underclocked 1.82ghz low power cores, I believe because of the extra heat from the larger screen. The iPhone 13 Pro and Pro Max have higher clocked 3.23ghz high power cores and the same 2.02ghz low power cores as the regular iPhone 13. The iPhone Pro's also have the extra 2GB of ram compares to the others and the iPhone 13/13 Mini are the only ones with the 4 core GPU rather than the 5 core GPU. All we know now for sure about the iPhone 14 and 14 Plus are that they will have the 5 core GPU. We will have to wait for a hands on to know more about the specifics of the A15 they are using. That said, I doubt that they will have the underclocked low power cores that they iPad Mini 6 has so I think the path of least resistance is for them to take the same A15 from the 13 Pro, with more RAM and overclocked high power cores, and just keep using it in the iPhone 14. Otherwise they have to introduce a fourth A15 variant which seems like more work than using one they already are manufacturing. I don't know shit about CPU manufacturing though so I am mostly just talking out of my ass.

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kemayo 4y ago

Camera sensor specs got a significant bump if you're looking at the 14 Pro. The 13 is a 12MP sensor, the 14 Pro is a 48MP sensor. Comparing the base 13 and 14 the only real hardware difference is that the selfie camera picked up autofocus and has an aperture change. There's a very minor aperture change to the main camera lens, but I'm not sure whether it's significant. Again with the 14 Pro, the always on display is a definite change. Probably depends on your own usage patterns whether it'd actually make a practical difference for you. Apple's comparison tool is actually pretty useful for this stuff: https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/?modelList=iphone13,iphone14,iphone14pro https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/?modelList=iphone13,iph...