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> true democracy I don't see that at all. What I see are a bunch of predatory projects trying to make a bunch of money before the music stops.

suoduandao2 4y ago
Whether you think it's an insincere sales tactic or not is immaterial to my question, which was, is anyone else trying the same sales tactic? If a particular set of ideals are being used in marketing for only one space, that space is going to attract people who care about those ideals. Currently I see those people flocking to Web3, if there's an alternative I'd be interested to hear about it.
- mmastrac 4y ago
  > anyone else trying the same sales tactic? Amway, Avon, and door-to-door knife sales were three that I recall.
- MikePlacid 4y ago
  > Currently I see those people flocking to Web3, if there's an alternative I'd be interested to hear about it. Freenet is decentralized and so far is unstoppable. You probably would not like 80% of information that’s being exchanged there… but that’s actually a sign of quality, if you think about it. Speaking of which , if I say write an anti-Putin manifesto on Web3 - will Putin’s thugs be able to stop me digitally or biologically? What are my protections?
  - suoduandao2 4y ago
    Thank you! Never heard of Freenet but it sounds like an answer to my question. Regarding your protections - I'd say anonymity is still the #1 protection in most online environments. Of course, adding money adds 'skin in the game', but you have a lot more control over how much of your identity you want to risk on any one manifesto.
m4jor 4y ago
I'm sure many people thought the same exact thing about the internet...
- godelski 4y ago
  Show me how web3 actually addresses decentralization and isn't just replacing the current winners with a different set of winners. Are you going to take down Binnance and Coinbase and allow no exchanges? No custodial wallets at all? I'm not going to hold my breath.
  - concinds 4y ago
    Anyone smart knows centralized exchanges should be avoided. DEX are a thing. It's simple, and I don't know why people are confused. New technology (value-neutral) comes around that promises decentralization. Grifters come into the space with a bunch of centralized garbage (stablecoins, CEX, etc). And "idiots" (I want to be respectful, but it's hard to find a better word) throw away the technology along with the bathwater. Result: enjoy CBDCs and the government being able to institute transaction taxes, implement negative interest rates, and freeze your bank account at will. Good thing you didn't get scammed!
  - m4jor 4y ago
    There are plenty of non-KYC fully decentralized exchanges and platforms. SideShift.ai for example or Bisq. Check out https://kycnot.me/ https://kycnot.me/

suoduandao2 4y ago

Whether you think it's an insincere sales tactic or not is immaterial to my question, which was, is anyone else trying the same sales tactic? If a particular set of ideals are being used in marketing for only one space, that space is going to attract people who care about those ideals. Currently I see those people flocking to Web3, if there's an alternative I'd be interested to hear about it.

mmastrac 4y ago
> anyone else trying the same sales tactic? Amway, Avon, and door-to-door knife sales were three that I recall.
MikePlacid 4y ago
> Currently I see those people flocking to Web3, if there's an alternative I'd be interested to hear about it. Freenet is decentralized and so far is unstoppable. You probably would not like 80% of information that’s being exchanged there… but that’s actually a sign of quality, if you think about it. Speaking of which , if I say write an anti-Putin manifesto on Web3 - will Putin’s thugs be able to stop me digitally or biologically? What are my protections?
- suoduandao2 4y ago
  Thank you! Never heard of Freenet but it sounds like an answer to my question. Regarding your protections - I'd say anonymity is still the #1 protection in most online environments. Of course, adding money adds 'skin in the game', but you have a lot more control over how much of your identity you want to risk on any one manifesto.

m4jor 4y ago

I'm sure many people thought the same exact thing about the internet...

godelski 4y ago
Show me how web3 actually addresses decentralization and isn't just replacing the current winners with a different set of winners. Are you going to take down Binnance and Coinbase and allow no exchanges? No custodial wallets at all? I'm not going to hold my breath.
- concinds 4y ago
  Anyone smart knows centralized exchanges should be avoided. DEX are a thing. It's simple, and I don't know why people are confused. New technology (value-neutral) comes around that promises decentralization. Grifters come into the space with a bunch of centralized garbage (stablecoins, CEX, etc). And "idiots" (I want to be respectful, but it's hard to find a better word) throw away the technology along with the bathwater. Result: enjoy CBDCs and the government being able to institute transaction taxes, implement negative interest rates, and freeze your bank account at will. Good thing you didn't get scammed!
- m4jor 4y ago
  There are plenty of non-KYC fully decentralized exchanges and platforms. SideShift.ai for example or Bisq. Check out https://kycnot.me/ https://kycnot.me/