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OT, but as someone who's never used Bazaar, how does this work? bzr clone https://tycho.sytes.net/TinyClock/ EDIT: To clarify, I'm curious since this is t

by cglong 4y ago

OT, but as someone who's never used Bazaar, how does this work? bzr clone https://tycho.sytes.net/TinyClock/ EDIT: To clarify, I'm curious since this is the same URL I'm opening in my browser.

dflock 4y ago
Same as `git clone <repo>` - it downloads a local copy of the repo into a folder called ./TinyClock, which it will create if it doesn't exist.
- unwind 4y ago
  One (IMO reasonable) objection/confusion might be that the the repo URL is the exact same as the web page, i.e. the actual posted article. When coming from git/Mercurial/subversion etc as I do, it is at least mildly weird that the Bazaar repo address is the same as the address of a web document. The two objects are not (at least in my world) the same, so why should they share URIs? Edit: deduped.
  - Karellen 4y ago
    Because sending different content based on the content-type the user-agent asks for, e.g. with the "Accept:" header, has explicitly been part of the HTTP spec since version 1.1 in 1997? https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc2068#section-12 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc2068#section-12 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc2068#section-14.1 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc2068#section-14.1 See also https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Content_negotiation https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Content_ne... (FWIW - I don't know if that's how `bzr` does this, but it might, and the concept is 25 years old now.) Edit: s/different content/different representations of the same resource/
    - unwind 4y ago
      True of course, didn't think about that. I'm not a web developer. :) Still think it's weird and kind of against my feeling for the spirit of a URI, but that's just me. Thanks.
  - easrng 4y ago
    You can git clone normal GitHub URLs without the .git at the end too.
notamy 4y ago
Honestly, the most surprising thing to me was that people still use bzr. It looks like Canonical abandoned it back in 2016 [0]. It seems like it was suceeded by breezy [1], at least. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Bazaar https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Bazaar [2] https://github.com/breezy-team/breezy https://github.com/breezy-team/breezy
- uticus 4y ago
  The only (somewhat) newer code I've seen hosted is for Anduril (nerdy firmware for nerdy flashlights). https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25514288 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25514288 https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~toykeeper/flashlight-firmware/fsm/files/head:/ToyKeeper/spaghetti-monster/anduril/ https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~toykeeper/flashlight-firmware/... https://ivanthinking.net/tags/anduril-ui/ https://ivanthinking.net/tags/anduril-ui/ https://zeroair.org/2019/10/14/lumintop-fw1a-flashlight-review/#Power_and_Runtime https://zeroair.org/2019/10/14/lumintop-fw1a-flashlight-revi... [edit] added HN link
soxocx 4y ago
Same URL, different port. The website is at 80(http) or 443(https). Bzr seems to run on 4155.
PainfullyNormal 4y ago
I successfully cloned the repo using breezy. Did I get punked? It's empty. > bzr log ------------------------------------------------------------ revno: 1 committer: TinyClock <TinyClock@tycho.sytes.net> branch nick: TinyClock timestamp: Wed 2022-09-07 20:18:32 +0300 message: initial commit
- fabrixxm 4y ago
  > bzr clone https://tycho.sytes.net/TinyClock/ > cd TinyClock > bzr checkout > ls controller.h LICENSE Makefile view.h controller.m main.m README.md view.m
  - PainfullyNormal 4y ago
    Ah! thank you.
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projektfu 4y ago
The website is openbsd httpd serving the repository. https://tycho.sytes.net/TinyClock/README.md https://tycho.sytes.net/TinyClock/README.md The Makefile creates index.html from README.md (and also TinyClock.dmg)
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by cglong 4y ago

OT, but as someone who's never used Bazaar, how does this work? bzr clone https://tycho.sytes.net/TinyClock/ EDIT: To clarify, I'm curious since this is the same URL I'm opening in my browser.

dflock 4y ago

Same as `git clone <repo>` - it downloads a local copy of the repo into a folder called ./TinyClock, which it will create if it doesn't exist.

unwind 4y ago
One (IMO reasonable) objection/confusion might be that the the repo URL is the exact same as the web page, i.e. the actual posted article. When coming from git/Mercurial/subversion etc as I do, it is at least mildly weird that the Bazaar repo address is the same as the address of a web document. The two objects are not (at least in my world) the same, so why should they share URIs? Edit: deduped.
- Karellen 4y ago
  Because sending different content based on the content-type the user-agent asks for, e.g. with the "Accept:" header, has explicitly been part of the HTTP spec since version 1.1 in 1997? https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc2068#section-12 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc2068#section-12 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc2068#section-14.1 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc2068#section-14.1 See also https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Content_negotiation https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Content_ne... (FWIW - I don't know if that's how `bzr` does this, but it might, and the concept is 25 years old now.) Edit: s/different content/different representations of the same resource/
  - unwind 4y ago
    True of course, didn't think about that. I'm not a web developer. :) Still think it's weird and kind of against my feeling for the spirit of a URI, but that's just me. Thanks.
- easrng 4y ago
  You can git clone normal GitHub URLs without the .git at the end too.

notamy 4y ago

Honestly, the most surprising thing to me was that people still use bzr. It looks like Canonical abandoned it back in 2016 [0]. It seems like it was suceeded by breezy [1], at least. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Bazaar https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Bazaar [2] https://github.com/breezy-team/breezy https://github.com/breezy-team/breezy

uticus 4y ago
The only (somewhat) newer code I've seen hosted is for Anduril (nerdy firmware for nerdy flashlights). https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25514288 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25514288 https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~toykeeper/flashlight-firmware/fsm/files/head:/ToyKeeper/spaghetti-monster/anduril/ https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~toykeeper/flashlight-firmware/... https://ivanthinking.net/tags/anduril-ui/ https://ivanthinking.net/tags/anduril-ui/ https://zeroair.org/2019/10/14/lumintop-fw1a-flashlight-review/#Power_and_Runtime https://zeroair.org/2019/10/14/lumintop-fw1a-flashlight-revi... [edit] added HN link

soxocx 4y ago

Same URL, different port. The website is at 80(http) or 443(https). Bzr seems to run on 4155.

PainfullyNormal 4y ago

I successfully cloned the repo using breezy. Did I get punked? It's empty. > bzr log ------------------------------------------------------------ revno: 1 committer: TinyClock <TinyClock@tycho.sytes.net> branch nick: TinyClock timestamp: Wed 2022-09-07 20:18:32 +0300 message: initial commit

fabrixxm 4y ago
> bzr clone https://tycho.sytes.net/TinyClock/ > cd TinyClock > bzr checkout > ls controller.h LICENSE Makefile view.h controller.m main.m README.md view.m
- PainfullyNormal 4y ago
  Ah! thank you.
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projektfu 4y ago

The website is openbsd httpd serving the repository. https://tycho.sytes.net/TinyClock/README.md https://tycho.sytes.net/TinyClock/README.md The Makefile creates index.html from README.md (and also TinyClock.dmg)

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