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As an avid ultrarunner, this is the first apple watch I'd ever consider. We aren't part of the apple ecosystem and I'm a bit resistant to join, so I am really e

by nhance 4y ago

As an avid ultrarunner, this is the first apple watch I'd ever consider. We aren't part of the apple ecosystem and I'm a bit resistant to join, so I am really excited to see the garmin or samsung equivalent to this

peppertree 4y ago
It cracks me up when people say Apple is evil go with Samsung. Samsung heir literally went to jail for bribing the Korean president, and that was just tip of the iceberg.
- digdugdirk 4y ago
  I don't see this as an "Apple is evil" comment. There are plenty of people who use Windows/Linux + Android for their computing environment, and for those people, jumping into the Apple ecosystem is an infeasible time/money/productivity commitment.
- babypuncher 4y ago
  I don't think nhance was trying to say that Apple is evil, they are expressing a desire not to get sucked into Apple's ecosystem. Samsung's ecosystem lacks the breadth of Apple's and isn't nearly as good at creating vendor lock-in.
  - nhance 4y ago
    Correct. Apple products work well together, but also make it a huge pain in the ass if you don't buy everything from them. The kids have apple products and we can't manage them effectively because we don't have apple devices. This provides a strong disincentive to want to give them any more money. Samsung was only mentioned because are there any other real competitors to a full smart watch? Garmin will likely keep me because running gps for 10+ hours at a shot is important. A full smart watch is far less of a priority. (On Sunday I ran for roughly 10.5 hours, GPS active the entire time. When I finished, I had 33% of my battery left.)
    - mikestew 4y ago
      Garmin will likely keep me because running gps for 10+ hours at a shot is important. A full smart watch is far less of a priority. If you don't want to dive headlong into Apple's stuff, then a Garmin might very well be all the smart watch you need. It's been quite a few years since I used a Garmin as a full-time smart watch, but you can have notifications and messages (read-only if using an Apple phone) and even contactless payment on a Garmin. If we weren't a knees-deep Apple house, I'd just use my Garmin 945 as my smart watch.
      - ghaff 4y ago
        For me, the Apple Watch is an Apple product that doesn’t unduly benefit from being all in on the Apple ecosystem but that may be just how I use it (or don’t).
        grayclhn 4y ago
        Switching AirPods over from phone to watch and back is pretty nice. That’s the only example I can think of offhand though.
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poisonborz 4y ago
Would you really switch to an iPhone just to use this watch? This is the thing with Apple products, especially accessories - only usable with a deeper dive in the lock-in.

by nhance 4y ago

peppertree 4y ago

It cracks me up when people say Apple is evil go with Samsung. Samsung heir literally went to jail for bribing the Korean president, and that was just tip of the iceberg.

digdugdirk 4y ago
I don't see this as an "Apple is evil" comment. There are plenty of people who use Windows/Linux + Android for their computing environment, and for those people, jumping into the Apple ecosystem is an infeasible time/money/productivity commitment.
babypuncher 4y ago
I don't think nhance was trying to say that Apple is evil, they are expressing a desire not to get sucked into Apple's ecosystem. Samsung's ecosystem lacks the breadth of Apple's and isn't nearly as good at creating vendor lock-in.
- nhance 4y ago
  Correct. Apple products work well together, but also make it a huge pain in the ass if you don't buy everything from them. The kids have apple products and we can't manage them effectively because we don't have apple devices. This provides a strong disincentive to want to give them any more money. Samsung was only mentioned because are there any other real competitors to a full smart watch? Garmin will likely keep me because running gps for 10+ hours at a shot is important. A full smart watch is far less of a priority. (On Sunday I ran for roughly 10.5 hours, GPS active the entire time. When I finished, I had 33% of my battery left.)
  - mikestew 4y ago
    Garmin will likely keep me because running gps for 10+ hours at a shot is important. A full smart watch is far less of a priority. If you don't want to dive headlong into Apple's stuff, then a Garmin might very well be all the smart watch you need. It's been quite a few years since I used a Garmin as a full-time smart watch, but you can have notifications and messages (read-only if using an Apple phone) and even contactless payment on a Garmin. If we weren't a knees-deep Apple house, I'd just use my Garmin 945 as my smart watch.
    - ghaff 4y ago
      For me, the Apple Watch is an Apple product that doesn’t unduly benefit from being all in on the Apple ecosystem but that may be just how I use it (or don’t).
      - grayclhn 4y ago
        Switching AirPods over from phone to watch and back is pretty nice. That’s the only example I can think of offhand though.
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poisonborz 4y ago

Would you really switch to an iPhone just to use this watch? This is the thing with Apple products, especially accessories - only usable with a deeper dive in the lock-in.