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The name says "unstoppable", but the fees paid to a centralized authority tell me that these domains are, in fact, quite stoppable. [EDIT - strike the incorrec

The name says "unstoppable", but the fees paid to a centralized authority tell me that these domains are, in fact, quite stoppable. [EDIT - strike the incorrect "yearly" from the "fees paid" statement]

hirundo 4y ago
Second paragraph: > Unstoppable domains are yours for life with no renewal fees, eliminating the risk of losing a domain because you forget to renew or because the registrar takes it away. Is this not correct?
- hardnose 4y ago
  My bad! The fees are apparently only paid once. However, since a central authority acts as a gatekeeper into that decentralized system, the same criticism still applies. I updated my original post, thanks for pointing that out.
  - schoen 4y ago
    The good thing is that you would never start using a domain that you didn't manage to acquire permanent ownership of. You wouldn't tell people to try to contact you via that domain. From a marketing point of view, this means that effort you spend on publicizing that domain and getting people to remember or recognize it wouldn't be wasted by having someone else take the domain away. From a security point of view, this means that people who are expecting to use your domain to reach you and your service can't be fooled into reaching someone else by having the domain reassigned to someone else. There are also security downsides around squatting and typosquatting; if some people explicitly or implicitly assume that domain ownership follows trademark ownership, it will be easier for someone to impersonate a famous brand or site, with greatly reduced recourse for the famous entity.
  - IanCal 4y ago
    Are they a gatekeeper? Do they even have the ability to stop someone registering something?
deepstack 4y ago
and also > Now, we’re deepening our integration beyond .crypto to include more top-level domains – including .nft, .x, .wallet, .bitcoin, .blockchain, and .dao. Hmm, for something to claim to be Unstoppable Domains, why not include .onion as well, seems like that is more an unstoppable domain than what Brave is offering. Any comments on that Brave?
- smegsicle 4y ago
  don't they already have tor integration built-in? what's there to comment on?
  - spijdar 4y ago
    Correct, some information is available here: https://support.brave.com/hc/en-us/articles/360018121491-What-is-a-Private-Window-with-Tor-Connectivity- https://support.brave.com/hc/en-us/articles/360018121491-Wha... It doesn't explicitly mention onion addresses, but I don't see any indication it's not supported. (Tor is also not supported on the Android or iOS versions of Brave)
somenameforme 4y ago
To be clear on one thing, the entire point of decentralization is that while Unstoppable is 'distributing' these domains, once distributed they no longer own them and can in no way whatsoever do anything with them, even if they wanted to regardless of the consequences. Decentralization in the web basically turns many "digital products" into something closer to their physical analog, in terms of ownership. What I mean there is that if you buy a Widget from the Widget Mart, Widget Mart no longer has any ability to impact that Widget in any way whatsoever. It's the same with these domains. You buy it, it's yours. Somebody can only take it away from you in the same ways that they might take away your Widget.
- k__ 4y ago

hirundo 4y ago

Second paragraph: > Unstoppable domains are yours for life with no renewal fees, eliminating the risk of losing a domain because you forget to renew or because the registrar takes it away. Is this not correct?

hardnose 4y ago
My bad! The fees are apparently only paid once. However, since a central authority acts as a gatekeeper into that decentralized system, the same criticism still applies. I updated my original post, thanks for pointing that out.
- schoen 4y ago
  The good thing is that you would never start using a domain that you didn't manage to acquire permanent ownership of. You wouldn't tell people to try to contact you via that domain. From a marketing point of view, this means that effort you spend on publicizing that domain and getting people to remember or recognize it wouldn't be wasted by having someone else take the domain away. From a security point of view, this means that people who are expecting to use your domain to reach you and your service can't be fooled into reaching someone else by having the domain reassigned to someone else. There are also security downsides around squatting and typosquatting; if some people explicitly or implicitly assume that domain ownership follows trademark ownership, it will be easier for someone to impersonate a famous brand or site, with greatly reduced recourse for the famous entity.
- IanCal 4y ago
  Are they a gatekeeper? Do they even have the ability to stop someone registering something?

deepstack 4y ago

and also > Now, we’re deepening our integration beyond .crypto to include more top-level domains – including .nft, .x, .wallet, .bitcoin, .blockchain, and .dao. Hmm, for something to claim to be Unstoppable Domains, why not include .onion as well, seems like that is more an unstoppable domain than what Brave is offering. Any comments on that Brave?

smegsicle 4y ago
don't they already have tor integration built-in? what's there to comment on?
- spijdar 4y ago
  Correct, some information is available here: https://support.brave.com/hc/en-us/articles/360018121491-What-is-a-Private-Window-with-Tor-Connectivity- https://support.brave.com/hc/en-us/articles/360018121491-Wha... It doesn't explicitly mention onion addresses, but I don't see any indication it's not supported. (Tor is also not supported on the Android or iOS versions of Brave)

somenameforme 4y ago

To be clear on one thing, the entire point of decentralization is that while Unstoppable is 'distributing' these domains, once distributed they no longer own them and can in no way whatsoever do anything with them, even if they wanted to regardless of the consequences. Decentralization in the web basically turns many "digital products" into something closer to their physical analog, in terms of ownership. What I mean there is that if you buy a Widget from the Widget Mart, Widget Mart no longer has any ability to impact that Widget in any way whatsoever. It's the same with these domains. You buy it, it's yours. Somebody can only take it away from you in the same ways that they might take away your Widget.

k__ 4y ago