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So is the Wagner Group and a good deal of Russian soldiers. Russia has far more Neo-Nazis than Ukraine does.

by 22SAS 4y ago

paganel 4y ago
I haven't seen Nazi memorabilia and branding on current Wagner soldiers fighting in Ukraine. I know of that bold dude with lots of tattoos from Wagner that was most definitely a Nazi, but I think he has been dead for a few years now. I have seen lots of Nazi memorabilia and branding on Azov, Right Sector and other brigades that are part of today's Ukrainian Army. But, ignoring the Azov guys (even though that's hard to do), what gets me it's stuff like this [1] or this [2], i.e. Ukrainian kids being brainwashed behind the lines to adopt the Nazi ideology (because, yes, adopting the Nazi salute en masse means that you're teaching those kids to adopt the Nazi ideology). I had sincerely hoped that we had managed to come past those very dark times, that Europe's kids wouldn't have to do the Nazi salute of their own volition anytime soon. Looks like I was wrong, and it's frightening that the West takes the side of those who teach their kids the Nazi salute. Later edit: To say nothing of Bandera, whose name is still carried by lots of streets in Ukraine. But I've had this discussion before here on HN and I was told that it's totally ok for a WW2 war criminal to be idolised in this day and age, so I will not fight that battle anymore. [1] https://twitter https://twitter. com/anatoliisharii/status/1567434109886111745/photo/1 (pls. remove the white space between the . and com, not sure it is legal inside of the EU to link to people doing the Nazi salute, this looks like it's back from 2018). [2] https://twitter https://twitter. com/DeuNachrichten/status/1566044503680884737 (the same, pls remove the white spce after the ., this is from a few days ago)
- _kbh_ 4y ago
  > I know of that bold dude with lots of tattoos from Wagner that was most definitely a Nazi, but I think he has been dead for a few years now You mean the leader of Wagner group who literally has nazi ss symbols tattooed on him and named the group after one of hitlers favourite composers?. > I have seen lots of Nazi memorabilia and branding on Azov, Right Sector and other brigades that are part of today's Ukrainian Army. There’s plenty of nazi symbology on non Wagner soldiers in Ukraine too. Here’s one example. https://www.newsweek.com/russia-ukraine-mariupol-azov-nazi-1695125?amp=1 https://www.newsweek.com/russia-ukraine-mariupol-azov-nazi-1...
- rasz 4y ago
  >I haven't seen Nazi memorabilia and branding on current Wagner soldiers fighting in Ukraine here you go https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1567010713473802241 https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1567010713473802241 in case you missed it https://twitter.com/bentarzynski/status/1567017093777989633 https://twitter.com/bentarzynski/status/1567017093777989633 https://twitter.com/zolotoybaton/status/1567018154617880578 https://twitter.com/zolotoybaton/status/1567018154617880578 >that bold dude with lots of tattoos from Wagner Dmitry Utkin, founder of wagner. Yes, even the boss is a nazi.

So is the Wagner Group and a good deal of Russian soldiers. Russia has far more Neo-Nazis than Ukraine does.

by 22SAS 4y ago

So is the Wagner Group and a good deal of Russian soldiers. Russia has far more Neo-Nazis than Ukraine does.

I haven't seen Nazi memorabilia and branding on current Wagner soldiers fighting in Ukraine. I know of that bold dude with lots of tattoos from Wagner that was most definitely a Nazi, but I think he has been dead for a few years now. I have seen lots of Nazi memorabilia and branding on Azov, Right Sector and other brigades that are part of today's Ukrainian Army. But, ignoring the Azov guys (even though that's hard to do), what gets me it's stuff like this [1] or this [2], i.e. Ukrainian kids being brainwashed behind the lines to adopt the Nazi ideology (because, yes, adopting the Nazi salute en masse means that you're teaching those kids to adopt the Nazi ideology). I had sincerely hoped that we had managed to come past those very dark times, that Europe's kids wouldn't have to do the Nazi salute of their own volition anytime soon. Looks like I was wrong, and it's frightening that the West takes the side of those who teach their kids the Nazi salute. Later edit: To say nothing of Bandera, whose name is still carried by lots of streets in Ukraine. But I've had this discussion before here on HN and I was told that it's totally ok for a WW2 war criminal to be idolised in this day and age, so I will not fight that battle anymore. [1] https://twitter https://twitter. com/anatoliisharii/status/1567434109886111745/photo/1 (pls. remove the white space between the . and com, not sure it is legal inside of the EU to link to people doing the Nazi salute, this looks like it's back from 2018). [2] https://twitter https://twitter. com/DeuNachrichten/status/1566044503680884737 (the same, pls remove the white spce after the ., this is from a few days ago)

_kbh_ 4y ago
> I know of that bold dude with lots of tattoos from Wagner that was most definitely a Nazi, but I think he has been dead for a few years now You mean the leader of Wagner group who literally has nazi ss symbols tattooed on him and named the group after one of hitlers favourite composers?. > I have seen lots of Nazi memorabilia and branding on Azov, Right Sector and other brigades that are part of today's Ukrainian Army. There’s plenty of nazi symbology on non Wagner soldiers in Ukraine too. Here’s one example. https://www.newsweek.com/russia-ukraine-mariupol-azov-nazi-1695125?amp=1 https://www.newsweek.com/russia-ukraine-mariupol-azov-nazi-1...
rasz 4y ago
>I haven't seen Nazi memorabilia and branding on current Wagner soldiers fighting in Ukraine here you go https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1567010713473802241 https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1567010713473802241 in case you missed it https://twitter.com/bentarzynski/status/1567017093777989633 https://twitter.com/bentarzynski/status/1567017093777989633 https://twitter.com/zolotoybaton/status/1567018154617880578 https://twitter.com/zolotoybaton/status/1567018154617880578 >that bold dude with lots of tattoos from Wagner Dmitry Utkin, founder of wagner. Yes, even the boss is a nazi.