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> free-will choices Obesity is not a choice, it's a result of food insecurity[0] and a common response to child sexual abuse.[1] 0. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.g

by rexpop 4y ago

> free-will choices Obesity is not a choice, it's a result of food insecurity[0] and a common response to child sexual abuse.[1] 0. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4584410/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4584410/ 1. https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2015/12/sexual-abuse-victims-obesity/420186/ https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2015/12/sexual-ab...

prirun 4y ago
Obesity may be caused by those 2 things, but those are not the only causes as your post implies. An example: fast-food companies lobbied the government to allow Snap cards to be used for fast food. A Big Mac Meal costs $6 and contains 1080 calories according to Google. For $6, you can buy 3 cartons of eggs (Indiana). At 78 calories per egg, that's 2808 calories. So you can get 2.5x more calories from a healthy food like eggs rather than shitty food like a Big Mac meal. I've heard people say "poor people are fatter because good food costs more money than crappy fast food". I don't believe that. I think many people are fat because they don't want to bother going to the grocery store and cooking. It's easier to eat shit food in a box and drink a soda or three.
- rexpop 4y ago
  Why are you arguing some point about cost that I didn't make instead of addressing the points I _did_ make? Incredible that you go through the trouble of building up a straw man when I am standing right here offering an actual argument. I guess it's cheaper than actually engaging with me in earnest. I am thoroughly disappointed.
  - prirun 4y ago
    The NIH article link you posted states: Food insecurity was determined by response (always/usually/sometimes) to the question,“How often in the past 12 months would you say you were worried or stressed about having enough money to buy nutritious meals?” I'm arguing about cost because food security in this survey is a cost issue. And, it's important to note that the article only covers 12 states. The Abstract ends with: "These findings are consistent with previous research and highlight the importance of increasing access to affordable healthy foods for all adults." My point is, we are instead increasing access for poor people to fast, unhealthy foods that cost more per calorie provided (Big Mac Meals) than healthy food (eggs).

by rexpop 4y ago

prirun 4y ago

Obesity may be caused by those 2 things, but those are not the only causes as your post implies. An example: fast-food companies lobbied the government to allow Snap cards to be used for fast food. A Big Mac Meal costs $6 and contains 1080 calories according to Google. For $6, you can buy 3 cartons of eggs (Indiana). At 78 calories per egg, that's 2808 calories. So you can get 2.5x more calories from a healthy food like eggs rather than shitty food like a Big Mac meal. I've heard people say "poor people are fatter because good food costs more money than crappy fast food". I don't believe that. I think many people are fat because they don't want to bother going to the grocery store and cooking. It's easier to eat shit food in a box and drink a soda or three.

rexpop 4y ago
Why are you arguing some point about cost that I didn't make instead of addressing the points I _did_ make? Incredible that you go through the trouble of building up a straw man when I am standing right here offering an actual argument. I guess it's cheaper than actually engaging with me in earnest. I am thoroughly disappointed.
- prirun 4y ago
  The NIH article link you posted states: Food insecurity was determined by response (always/usually/sometimes) to the question,“How often in the past 12 months would you say you were worried or stressed about having enough money to buy nutritious meals?” I'm arguing about cost because food security in this survey is a cost issue. And, it's important to note that the article only covers 12 states. The Abstract ends with: "These findings are consistent with previous research and highlight the importance of increasing access to affordable healthy foods for all adults." My point is, we are instead increasing access for poor people to fast, unhealthy foods that cost more per calorie provided (Big Mac Meals) than healthy food (eggs).