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Agreed. Without the pressure of 'do this or die', these wealthy men can enjoy work. Because at any time, they can simply leave. Kinda like Mike Rowe waxing on

Agreed. Without the pressure of 'do this or die', these wealthy men can enjoy work. Because at any time, they can simply leave. Kinda like Mike Rowe waxing on about Dirty Jobs and work ethic. It lacks the full weight of the cost of failure.

colechristensen 4y ago
But it is also subtle life advice. Set yourself up so you can leave and you’ll have a much better time at work.
- fezfight 4y ago
  Yeah, but it's only speaking to a small subset of the lucky folks who can do that.
  - swatcoder 4y ago
    Sure, but the Venn diagram of those "lucky folks" and the people on this site has unusually high overlap. It doesn't hurt to remind some of the stressed out and overworked among us that living below one's tech-industry means can pay off in work satisfaction, even if it means foregoing some more immediate pleasures.
    - fezfight 4y ago
      Ah, I see. If it helps you, that's great. Apologies if my comment hindered that for you. Unfortunately it just makes me indignant/kinda depressed.
  - throwaway22032 4y ago
    Basically everyone can do it, they just don't.
    - RonaldRaygun 4y ago
      Do you honestly believe that everyone is born with the same inherent abilities and talents? Or that lacking the ability to achieve at a high level is some sort of choice or moral failing?
      - em-bee 4y ago
        it's not a question of abilities and talent, but one of attitude and willpower. why did so many people refuse to continue working as before the pandemic? the only thing that changed really, is their attitude towards work.
      - throwaway22032 4y ago
        I believe that basically everyone is capable enough to support themselves. Some people are infirm, they're a small minority and we should as a society take care of them.
  - colechristensen 4y ago
    How much do you have to earn before you can live below your means? This is all that is necessary really, spend less than you make so that you can continually build savings in order to build up fuck-you money so quitting your job and taking a few months to find a new one isn't scary. I know waitresses who do it and have sizable amounts in savings. There's always someone who has a similar life situation and makes less money than you. Just live life like you make 10% less or whatever. There are definitely people who live paycheck to paycheck on that much less than you earn, you can spend that much money and keep the 10% for when it is really needed. People get mad when you suggest this and have a list of "but I have to X..." which isn't valid because there's always someone who earns less than you who also has X. You don't earn the absolute minimum amount of money for someone in your situation, that's just silly to think like that. There are people who have serious issues like disabilities or whatever were it is quite hard, to be fair. But it isn't just the "lucky few" who don't.
- y42 4y ago
  Not sure if this is ironic or serious.
  - Xeronate 4y ago
    It is good advice. My job is way better knowing I can leave whenever I want and don't feel pressure from unreasonable demands.
  - colechristensen 4y ago
    Serious.
bongobingo1 4y ago
> Kinda like Mike Rowe waxing on about Dirty Jobs and work ethic. It lacks the full weight of the cost of failure. Or every "CEO mans the grill for a day" garbage. Easy to find service work satisfying when you're not stuck doing it.

colechristensen 4y ago

But it is also subtle life advice. Set yourself up so you can leave and you’ll have a much better time at work.

fezfight 4y ago
Yeah, but it's only speaking to a small subset of the lucky folks who can do that.
- swatcoder 4y ago
  Sure, but the Venn diagram of those "lucky folks" and the people on this site has unusually high overlap. It doesn't hurt to remind some of the stressed out and overworked among us that living below one's tech-industry means can pay off in work satisfaction, even if it means foregoing some more immediate pleasures.
  - fezfight 4y ago
    Ah, I see. If it helps you, that's great. Apologies if my comment hindered that for you. Unfortunately it just makes me indignant/kinda depressed.
- throwaway22032 4y ago
  Basically everyone can do it, they just don't.
  - RonaldRaygun 4y ago
    Do you honestly believe that everyone is born with the same inherent abilities and talents? Or that lacking the ability to achieve at a high level is some sort of choice or moral failing?
    - em-bee 4y ago
      it's not a question of abilities and talent, but one of attitude and willpower. why did so many people refuse to continue working as before the pandemic? the only thing that changed really, is their attitude towards work.
    - throwaway22032 4y ago
      I believe that basically everyone is capable enough to support themselves. Some people are infirm, they're a small minority and we should as a society take care of them.
- colechristensen 4y ago
  How much do you have to earn before you can live below your means? This is all that is necessary really, spend less than you make so that you can continually build savings in order to build up fuck-you money so quitting your job and taking a few months to find a new one isn't scary. I know waitresses who do it and have sizable amounts in savings. There's always someone who has a similar life situation and makes less money than you. Just live life like you make 10% less or whatever. There are definitely people who live paycheck to paycheck on that much less than you earn, you can spend that much money and keep the 10% for when it is really needed. People get mad when you suggest this and have a list of "but I have to X..." which isn't valid because there's always someone who earns less than you who also has X. You don't earn the absolute minimum amount of money for someone in your situation, that's just silly to think like that. There are people who have serious issues like disabilities or whatever were it is quite hard, to be fair. But it isn't just the "lucky few" who don't.
y42 4y ago
Not sure if this is ironic or serious.
- Xeronate 4y ago
  It is good advice. My job is way better knowing I can leave whenever I want and don't feel pressure from unreasonable demands.
- colechristensen 4y ago
  Serious.

bongobingo1 4y ago

> Kinda like Mike Rowe waxing on about Dirty Jobs and work ethic. It lacks the full weight of the cost of failure. Or every "CEO mans the grill for a day" garbage. Easy to find service work satisfying when you're not stuck doing it.