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I guess the managers have found this comment. Once anyone notices when a manager takes vacation, then I'll consider it a vital part of any job

jevgeni 4y ago
Why do you assume that anyone notices yours?
- aniforprez 4y ago
  Even as an engineer, I hope FFS no one notices my vacations. It means everything is running smoothly and I actually get to have a little down time and not think about work
  - royaltheartist 4y ago
    Every job I've worked at, when a co-worker goes on vacation, it's up to the other engineers and laborers to compensate. When the manager goes on vacation there's no extra work leftover
    - aniforprez 4y ago
      Engineers having to compensate for your vacation sounds like a bad engineering org. Ideally, any gap in engineering should not be missed. If there are fires while you're out, there's something worse going on that needs to be addressed, whether it's bad management or bad engineers
    - vajrabum 4y ago
      Engineers generally don't take over the manager's responsibilities unless they're technical or reporting responsibilites. Generally it's another manager. Most companies require management involvement in P0 incident response for an example. At most companies I've worked at an engineer generally wouldn't be an acceptable substitute. A peer or the manager's boss usually takes it in their absence. It's not unusual that a significant portion of management responsibilities aren't visible to their individual contributor direct reports.
      - drewcoo 4y ago
        > require management involvement in P0 incident response So in companies with lots of P0s, managers are missed more? Interesting take.
        vajrabum 4y ago
        No it's simply an example of the sort of duty that management does not delegate to ICs. There are many.
- royaltheartist 4y ago
  Because my managers tell me about fires I have to put out when I get back
  - jevgeni 4y ago
    See other replies here.

jevgeni 4y ago

Why do you assume that anyone notices yours?

aniforprez 4y ago
Even as an engineer, I hope FFS no one notices my vacations. It means everything is running smoothly and I actually get to have a little down time and not think about work
- royaltheartist 4y ago
  Every job I've worked at, when a co-worker goes on vacation, it's up to the other engineers and laborers to compensate. When the manager goes on vacation there's no extra work leftover
  - aniforprez 4y ago
    Engineers having to compensate for your vacation sounds like a bad engineering org. Ideally, any gap in engineering should not be missed. If there are fires while you're out, there's something worse going on that needs to be addressed, whether it's bad management or bad engineers
  - vajrabum 4y ago
    Engineers generally don't take over the manager's responsibilities unless they're technical or reporting responsibilites. Generally it's another manager. Most companies require management involvement in P0 incident response for an example. At most companies I've worked at an engineer generally wouldn't be an acceptable substitute. A peer or the manager's boss usually takes it in their absence. It's not unusual that a significant portion of management responsibilities aren't visible to their individual contributor direct reports.
    - drewcoo 4y ago
      > require management involvement in P0 incident response So in companies with lots of P0s, managers are missed more? Interesting take.
      - vajrabum 4y ago
        No it's simply an example of the sort of duty that management does not delegate to ICs. There are many.
royaltheartist 4y ago
Because my managers tell me about fires I have to put out when I get back
- jevgeni 4y ago
  See other replies here.