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So this is a category error much like saying French is not a type of poodle. I assure you, it is, just as, well, two can play at this game https://en.wikipedia.

So this is a category error much like saying French is not a type of poodle. I assure you, it is, just as, well, two can play at this game https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trappist_beer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trappist_beer .

torstenvl 4y ago
The link you posted shows the opposite: Trappists brew many types of beer, though arguably Trippels are the most common lately. Saying Trappist is a type of beer is like saying French is a type of poodle — if you used the label only to refer to a poodle bred in France. A more apt comparison is saying Bordeaux is a type of wine. Bordeaux is a region in France; it is well-known for 5-6 types of wine; any Bordeaux wine that qualifies for AOC proudly displays its Bordeaux heritage on the bottle.
- JoachimS 4y ago
  Or Champagne, which are different kinds of sparkling wine made in Russia: https://www.foodandwine.com/news/russia-champagne-law-sparkling-wine-label https://www.foodandwine.com/news/russia-champagne-law-sparkl... (I see myself out now.)
modernpink 4y ago
There are category category errors being committed on all sides. The confusion is arising from the word "type". To some, a "type" of beer is a style of beer characterised by common ingredients, methods and appearance. To others a "type" of beer may be as loosely defined as simply the kind of container it is stored in (can, bottle, draught).
mgsouth 4y ago
Which raises the question[0], "Why French poodle?" Is there a non-French variety? Wikipedia indicates not [1], although they probably originated in Germany. [2] [0] Not "begs". Never "begs the question," even if I am being pompously pedantic. [0'] [0'] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question#Vernacular https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question#Vernacula... [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poodle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poodle [1'] [1'] TIL the word "cynalogy"--"the study of matters related to canines or domestic dogs." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cynology https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cynology [2] Also, while the Germans refer to the breed as "Pudel," the French call them "Caniche". So of course in English we call them <"French"> <German word>. [3] Rabbits! They went down this hole!

torstenvl 4y ago

The link you posted shows the opposite: Trappists brew many types of beer, though arguably Trippels are the most common lately. Saying Trappist is a type of beer is like saying French is a type of poodle — if you used the label only to refer to a poodle bred in France. A more apt comparison is saying Bordeaux is a type of wine. Bordeaux is a region in France; it is well-known for 5-6 types of wine; any Bordeaux wine that qualifies for AOC proudly displays its Bordeaux heritage on the bottle.

JoachimS 4y ago
Or Champagne, which are different kinds of sparkling wine made in Russia: https://www.foodandwine.com/news/russia-champagne-law-sparkling-wine-label https://www.foodandwine.com/news/russia-champagne-law-sparkl... (I see myself out now.)

modernpink 4y ago

There are category category errors being committed on all sides. The confusion is arising from the word "type". To some, a "type" of beer is a style of beer characterised by common ingredients, methods and appearance. To others a "type" of beer may be as loosely defined as simply the kind of container it is stored in (can, bottle, draught).

mgsouth 4y ago

Which raises the question[0], "Why French poodle?" Is there a non-French variety? Wikipedia indicates not [1], although they probably originated in Germany. [2] [0] Not "begs". Never "begs the question," even if I am being pompously pedantic. [0'] [0'] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question#Vernacular https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question#Vernacula... [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poodle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poodle [1'] [1'] TIL the word "cynalogy"--"the study of matters related to canines or domestic dogs." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cynology https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cynology [2] Also, while the Germans refer to the breed as "Pudel," the French call them "Caniche". So of course in English we call them <"French"> <German word>. [3] Rabbits! They went down this hole!