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Hum, there are a few things promoters of the lab theory haven't accounted for: meanwhile, strains that are closer related to the wild type have been found in La
by masswerk 4y ago
Hum, there are a few things promoters of the lab theory haven't accounted for: meanwhile, strains that are closer related to the wild type have been found in Laos and Vietnam and the Wuhan lab didn't sample there; the (in)famous Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market is actually quite a distance from the Wuhan Institute of Virology (it's about half an hour by car and there's a river in between) and there have been no traces found related to this route or to the geographical and/or social vicinity of the lab.
Meanwhile, there has been quite a number of reportings (on two studies) severely undermining the lab leak theory. Generally speaking, these (US) studies claim to have genetic evidence for an animal-human-animal-human transfer in Nov. 2019 at the wet market and swab samples of cages tested positive for SARS-CoV-2. Here's a sample:
[1] https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abp8715 https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abp8715
[2] https://www.openaccessgovernment.org/covid-19-originated-at-wuhan-wet-market-via-raccoon-dogs-and-foxes/140578/ https://www.openaccessgovernment.org/covid-19-originated-at-...
[3] https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-62307383 https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-62307383
[4] https://www.newsweek.com/wuhan-lab-leak-theory-undermined-new-research-points-wet-market-1683005 https://www.newsweek.com/wuhan-lab-leak-theory-undermined-ne...
(For me, there are political motives too strong behind the lab leak theory, to accept a mere conjecture that fails to connect the dots. Grave accusations require proof. Especially, if you haven't ruled out contradicting candidates.)
- haihaibye 4y agohttps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/nuccore/MN312670.1 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/nuccore/MN312670.1 Bat sample from Laos submitted by Wuhan institute of virology in 2019
- masswerk 4y agoBut this is neither similar to SARS-CoV-2 nor to BANAL-236 or BANAL-52 (the close relatives found in Laos).
- haihaibye 4y agoThe OP said the WIV didn't sample in Laos. Just wanted to show it did. Who knows what they sampled but haven't released - the WIV took down their virus sequence database in November 2019 and it has not been shared since.
- masswerk 4y agoI think, they didn't sample actively there. (That's what I read.) If someone shared samples with the WIV, this would have probably become known by now. My problem is really with building evidence by "unknown unknowns": we don't know neither object, nor subject, nor circumstances, but, if we ignore all we do know, this is clear evidence. (Hum.)