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Thanks for providing the link. Having seen it, I can't help but say: lol! You took that one sentance to mean pg was upset that you were arguing with trolls?

by danssig 15y ago

Thanks for providing the link. Having seen it, I can't help but say: lol! You took that one sentance to mean pg was upset that you were arguing with trolls? It looks to me like he thought you were trolling! All kinds of other people were still talking to the person you accuse of being a troll but only you got singled out and asked to stop. None of them and not even the alleged troll. And again it was about perl. I think you seriously need to ask yourself why you're so incredibly sensitive about this subject. No one is criticizing you nor your family. Just a tool that has no feelings or emotions.

berntb 15y ago
>>All kinds of other people were still talking to the person you accuse of being a troll You are a liar. Here is his account. It is at Karma -10 and it wasn't used after that troll session. http://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=derrickpetzold http://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=derrickpetzold He was posting slams of about your level. ("in other words run the f away from Perl if you can unless you are into S&M"). And so on. >>And again it was about perl. It is something I use a lot, even for fun. You don't like Perl (not "perl") and write 10-20% of comments in discussions about it. So you're just bullshitting here, as trolls do. And you got another comment out of me... :-(
- danssig 15y ago
  >You are a liar. Here is his account. It is at Karma -10 and it wasn't used after that troll session. Oh my, it seems I've hit a nerve for some reason. In the post where pg called you specially out to stop, other people responded to the "troll". I wonder why it was only you who got singled out. Further, you're assuming the guy was just a troll. Maybe he came on here, saw that even though this was supposed to be a more sophisticated crowd, there was a lot of perl support here, had one big fight and then decided it wasn't worth his time to bother. >He was posting slams of about your level. More misrepresentation from you. Most of his "slams" were a bit over the top, where as I'm just stating facts with less hyperbole than he had. >You don't like Perl (not "perl") and write 10-20% of comments in discussions about it. I used perl professional for a torturous 5 years. The internet made the correct decision to move away and I'm not going to stand by and let people use propaganda to bring it back. If you people want to keep on using it, go ahead, but stop dragging new programmers down your career dead-end. >So you're just bullshitting here, as trolls do. And you got another comment out of me... :-( The lady doth protest too much, methinks (I really love that one!). I'm having a conversation here. You're constantly screaming "troll! troll!" because you have no useful counter-arguments.
  - chromatic 15y ago
    even though this was supposed to be a more sophisticated crowd, there was a lot of perl support here I used perl professional for a torturous 5 years. The internet made the correct decision to move away stop dragging new programmers down your career dead-end. I think this is the kind of talk to which reasonable people might object.
    - danssig 15y ago
      With all due respect, I don't think you're the one to know what "reasonable people" might object to. Your bias is as clear and well documented as mine if not more-so.
      - berntb 15y ago
        >>Your bias is as clear and well documented as mine You've claimed repeatedly to be serious and only argue facts -- so now you not only lied but admitted to be a liar (in addition to your usual personal attacks; chromatic just noted that you're trolling, which you didn't try to contradict). But the real problem for HN isn't bad trolls like you, it is fools like me that feed them. Bye.
        danssig 15y ago
        >so now you not only lied but admitted to be a liar Citation needed? >chromatic just noted that you're trolling Is English your native tongue? He quoted me and then claimed a "reasonable" person would be offended. I pointed out that he's a poor choice to make this call. I don't think a reasonable person would be offended at what I said at all. Only an irrational perl fanboy. >But the real problem for HN isn't bad trolls like you, it is fools like me that feed them. I'm not sure "troll" means what you think it does. It doesn't mean someone who has points you don't like but have no good answer for.
        berntb 15y ago
        That was really funny! >>points you don't like but have no good answer for. Your "arguments" are personal attacks ("the lady doth protest too much", "irrational perl fanboy", etc, etc) and language slams without motivation (see e.g. list by chromatic). You have no serious arguments -- e.g. what would be better than CPAN, Moose or MooseX::Declare. (You probably never used them, since you don't even know the name of Perl, but write "perl".) Thanks for making my weekend, troll.

danssig 15y ago
>Your "arguments" are personal attacks And here is the crux of the issue, as I've stated in the beginning: you're identifying perl as part of who you are (again, read up pg on ID) and taking negative facts or suggestions as personal attacks. An "irrational perl fanboy" (the only part that would be a "personal attack", though generally directed at unnamed persons) is someone who does this. >since you don't even know the name of Perl, but write "perl" lol, I don't know anything about perl because I don't bother myself with your conventions? I don't get why people get sensitive about this triviality. If someone through a fit about people saying LISP instead of lisp or Lisp I would assume they were probably retarded. Ironically, I probably know perl better than you do. Have you ever written any XS code? >Thanks for making my weekend, troll. Again with the personal attacks. Honestly, looking back at this thread you stand out to me as more of a troll. Just as you did in that thread where pg called you out on it.
- berntb 15y ago
  So the only way you can answer accusations of being a troll and just doing (personal) attacks, insults and lies -- is more insults and you have no serious arguments to point at.
  - berntb 15y ago
    OK danssig, -- to sum up this garbage: I took one of your lies and insults (that you had made any "points" I couldn't answer) and you only had more insults and lies. Enough. Seriously, some advice -- it is common for some to let out steam by being an asshole to people on the Internet, but your lies and insults doesn't seem like healthy behavior. You should check if you need professional help with whatever ails you.
    - danssig 15y ago
      That's hilarious. From your behavior in this thread I'm pretty convinced that you have problems that could use professional help. I'm telling you I see a problem, where I see the problem (you see perl as part of who you are) and you see that as an insult. Or maybe you were even calling my bit about not caring how perl is spelled as an insult?
      - berntb 15y ago
        Just insults in two chances to list the serious "points" you claim I can't answer. Insults are obviously your "points"... (chromatic had a similar experience.) Please talk to a professional. I am serious. You're a bit beyond the usual sad trolls.
        danssig 15y ago
        The mad man thinks others need help. Here's a quick way to check though: if this thread were about you bashing Lisp it wouldn't exist. I don't view any tool as such an integral part of myself that I would be willing to spend weeks defending legitimate (or otherwise!) complaints against the language. If you don't like it I don't care. If you trash it on the Internet I'll correct you a few times but I would never consider going to the lengths you have.