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In order to start doing this we need a standard to build on. The simplest thing should be the easiest thing to agree on and that has been the case so far in how

In order to start doing this we need a standard to build on. The simplest thing should be the easiest thing to agree on and that has been the case so far in how math has moved forward (afaict) but sometimes local optimas get in the way of progress.

h0p3 4y ago
`/nod`. I hear ya. RSS and mutable torrents seem like a fine starting place (if only to learn from), and I think we could argue ActivityPub's community has attempted to work on this problem. I worry that if we can't achieve the underlying distributed network (and effective DHTs [or the overlays on them] have a very long way to go, imho), we will lack the proper testing grounds to even know what the fitting standard(s) should be at some level. I hope I'm wrong about that. I could see federated networks perfecting some aspects of self-sovereign, decentralizable identities or portable logical accounts, as well as fitting standards for sharing the data we find most salient among that federation. It's a start. I can't say something like Mastadon has succeeded here, but these amazing projects simply haven't received the funding they deserve. I could also imagine a centralized, for-profit institution creating something similar, but it would be a trade secret. I hope we find the answer before they do. I'm not going to work on that problem until I have an underlying p2p network meant to actually replace at least the web (and, I am, of course, a huge fan of Sir pfrazee's astounding work in this sphere). I consider that an extremely tall task as it is, and, so far (and I say this with profound [[gratitude]] for those who have worked to solve the problem), nothing comes even close. It's a pleasure to meet you, btw.
- openfuture 4y ago
  Alright so you can go check out datalisp.is and tala saman then.. it's my attempt

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In order to start doing this we need a standard to build on. The simplest thing should be the easiest thing to agree on and that has been the case so far in how

by openfuture 4y ago

h0p3 4y ago
`/nod`. I hear ya. RSS and mutable torrents seem like a fine starting place (if only to learn from), and I think we could argue ActivityPub's community has attempted to work on this problem. I worry that if we can't achieve the underlying distributed network (and effective DHTs [or the overlays on them] have a very long way to go, imho), we will lack the proper testing grounds to even know what the fitting standard(s) should be at some level. I hope I'm wrong about that. I could see federated networks perfecting some aspects of self-sovereign, decentralizable identities or portable logical accounts, as well as fitting standards for sharing the data we find most salient among that federation. It's a start. I can't say something like Mastadon has succeeded here, but these amazing projects simply haven't received the funding they deserve. I could also imagine a centralized, for-profit institution creating something similar, but it would be a trade secret. I hope we find the answer before they do. I'm not going to work on that problem until I have an underlying p2p network meant to actually replace at least the web (and, I am, of course, a huge fan of Sir pfrazee's astounding work in this sphere). I consider that an extremely tall task as it is, and, so far (and I say this with profound [[gratitude]] for those who have worked to solve the problem), nothing comes even close. It's a pleasure to meet you, btw.
- openfuture 4y ago
  Alright so you can go check out datalisp.is and tala saman then.. it's my attempt