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I am not sure what you are looking at, but when I go to the 1password page from my mobile I see big buttons with: memberships, families, business and team, Mac,

I am not sure what you are looking at, but when I go to the 1password page from my mobile I see big buttons with: memberships, families, business and team, Mac, Windows, Linux, IOS, apple watch, android, 1password in the browser, scim Bridge, cli, secrets automation, ssh, desktop betas, browsers,android betas, IOS betas, previous versions. Now that is a whole different level of confusing then keepass. I mean I generally know what I'm looking for, but wouldn't know if I should click on the families or Linux button for example. So I think this refutes your point that market share is due to the download page.

prophesi 4y ago
I'm really not sure what you're looking at, but on 1Password's mobile site there's a huge button to download from your phone's store on the homepage. The "Try 1Password FREE" button takes you to a well laid-out pricing page. Edit: Ah, I guess you might be talking about the small Downloads section in the footer. Even that's much more clear than a page with a 2.x download, 2.x portable download, 1.x download, 1.x portable download, and then 30+ unofficial ports.
- cycomanic 4y ago
  I replied in a different comment that I landed on the community page. But I have to say, arguing that the downloads buttons on keepass are more friction than "get started" (I don't see a app store link) which takes me to the business offer and then the family offer where I have to register an account and provide payment details, is a bit of a stretch. And bitwarden is very similar. Sure I can search on the playstore, but then I also find keepass quite easily there.
  - prophesi 4y ago
    I think that's just the downside of 1Password/Bitwarden's business model. The best they can do is explain the core features on the splash page, as you'd need a valid account to actually use the app in the first place. KeePassXC is probably the closest to ideal. It could just use more info about what it does on the homepage, and change its name for better marketing. But the project states itself that their audience is "for people with extremely high demands of secure personal data management" so I doubt that would ever be addressed.
    - witrak 4y ago
      >KeePassXC is probably the closest to ideal. Well, "the closest", but not ideal, unfortunately, what I realized when they decided to abandon support for windows7 forcing me to maintain the KeePass database in VMs by hand... :-(
cycomanic 4y ago
Replying to myself, seems like I went to 1password.community which is the first result I get when I search. I guess this goes to show for the perils of having to be high in the search rankings.

prophesi 4y ago

I'm really not sure what you're looking at, but on 1Password's mobile site there's a huge button to download from your phone's store on the homepage. The "Try 1Password FREE" button takes you to a well laid-out pricing page. Edit: Ah, I guess you might be talking about the small Downloads section in the footer. Even that's much more clear than a page with a 2.x download, 2.x portable download, 1.x download, 1.x portable download, and then 30+ unofficial ports.

cycomanic 4y ago
I replied in a different comment that I landed on the community page. But I have to say, arguing that the downloads buttons on keepass are more friction than "get started" (I don't see a app store link) which takes me to the business offer and then the family offer where I have to register an account and provide payment details, is a bit of a stretch. And bitwarden is very similar. Sure I can search on the playstore, but then I also find keepass quite easily there.
- prophesi 4y ago
  I think that's just the downside of 1Password/Bitwarden's business model. The best they can do is explain the core features on the splash page, as you'd need a valid account to actually use the app in the first place. KeePassXC is probably the closest to ideal. It could just use more info about what it does on the homepage, and change its name for better marketing. But the project states itself that their audience is "for people with extremely high demands of secure personal data management" so I doubt that would ever be addressed.
  - witrak 4y ago
    >KeePassXC is probably the closest to ideal. Well, "the closest", but not ideal, unfortunately, what I realized when they decided to abandon support for windows7 forcing me to maintain the KeePass database in VMs by hand... :-(

cycomanic 4y ago

Replying to myself, seems like I went to 1password.community which is the first result I get when I search. I guess this goes to show for the perils of having to be high in the search rankings.