> If they were so "terrible" and "out of place" users would reject them, and they don't. You are acting like users have a choice. For example: Microsoft Teams

> If they were so "terrible" and "out of place" users would reject them, and they don't. You are acting like users have a choice. For example: Microsoft Teams is an abomination of an app. It's slow, clunky, eats memory like there is no tomorrow and feels totally out of place on macOS. Still it's a huge commercial succes and I use it every day, even though as a user I absolutely hate it. I simply have to use it because my employer chose it as the company collaboration tool. And they didn't choose it because of it's incredible UX, they chose it because we already have an Office365 subscription and it was included in that, so we already paid for it anyway. Some Electron apps have been huge commercial successes despite their terrible UX.