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Are there any reasons why I should not donate to EFF?

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robin_reala 15y ago
The only one I can think of is if you’re not in the US. The UK (for example) has the more locally focused Open Rights Group ( http://www.openrightsgroup.org/ http://www.openrightsgroup.org/ ).
- stfu 15y ago
  Problem is that these are often far less aggressive than the EFF. The EFF excels in the ability of spotting situations that are so obviously "wrong" that they make great stories. Most European organizations unfortunately appear to me far less professional organized and more a bunch of activists who are lacking the firepower of EFFs legal and PR team.
  - robin_reala 15y ago
    True, but the EFF didn’t get involved in fight against the Digital Economy Act [1]. Local groups can effectively fight against local problems. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Economy_Act_2010 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Economy_Act_2010
  - tripzilch 15y ago
    "most" ? Like which ones? Bits of Freedom seems pretty professional and organized from what I've seen. Also what do you mean with "bunch of activists", well I can guess what you mean, but technically the EFF are activists just as well.
    - stfu 15y ago
      I contacted the EFF a while ago about their European links and they suggested me to get in touch with http://www.edri.org/ http://www.edri.org/. Now taking a look at their member associations: http://www.edri.org/about/members http://www.edri.org/about/members Europe has a super fractioned structure of EFF alike associations. Sure, one could argue some "regional networks", "local strength" and "European situation" and I am sure most member associations are doing good work. But with lawmaking increasingly trickling from the central European Union Administration to the state levels it is hard to say if this lose structures are providing enough counter balance to professional lobbying efforts. And the EFF seems to me playing on a level playing field with strong industry/lobby organization by combining a top notch legal and public relations team.
- tripzilch 15y ago
  Similarly, the Netherlands has Bits of Freedom https://bof.nl/ https://bof.nl/ . They're doing some really good work on reporting data leaks and even are trying to get a law passed that would require companies to report their data leaks as they find them.

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The only one I can think of is if you’re not in the US. The UK (for example) has the more locally focused Open Rights Group ( http://www.openrightsgroup.org/ http://www.openrightsgroup.org/ ).

stfu 15y ago
Problem is that these are often far less aggressive than the EFF. The EFF excels in the ability of spotting situations that are so obviously "wrong" that they make great stories. Most European organizations unfortunately appear to me far less professional organized and more a bunch of activists who are lacking the firepower of EFFs legal and PR team.
- robin_reala 15y ago
  True, but the EFF didn’t get involved in fight against the Digital Economy Act [1]. Local groups can effectively fight against local problems. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Economy_Act_2010 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Economy_Act_2010
- tripzilch 15y ago
  "most" ? Like which ones? Bits of Freedom seems pretty professional and organized from what I've seen. Also what do you mean with "bunch of activists", well I can guess what you mean, but technically the EFF are activists just as well.
  - stfu 15y ago
    I contacted the EFF a while ago about their European links and they suggested me to get in touch with http://www.edri.org/ http://www.edri.org/. Now taking a look at their member associations: http://www.edri.org/about/members http://www.edri.org/about/members Europe has a super fractioned structure of EFF alike associations. Sure, one could argue some "regional networks", "local strength" and "European situation" and I am sure most member associations are doing good work. But with lawmaking increasingly trickling from the central European Union Administration to the state levels it is hard to say if this lose structures are providing enough counter balance to professional lobbying efforts. And the EFF seems to me playing on a level playing field with strong industry/lobby organization by combining a top notch legal and public relations team.
tripzilch 15y ago
Similarly, the Netherlands has Bits of Freedom https://bof.nl/ https://bof.nl/ . They're doing some really good work on reporting data leaks and even are trying to get a law passed that would require companies to report their data leaks as they find them.