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So much great UI from the past. https://www.dlib.org/dlib/june96/hearst/06hearst.html https://www.dlib.org/dlib/june96/hearst/06hearst.html https://aspoerri.c

So much great UI from the past. https://www.dlib.org/dlib/june96/hearst/06hearst.html https://www.dlib.org/dlib/june96/hearst/06hearst.html https://aspoerri.comminfo.rutgers.edu/Teaching/InfoVisResources/papers/InfoVisualizer.pdf https://aspoerri.comminfo.rutgers.edu/Teaching/InfoVisResour... Cone Trees https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbcQT8Oz_yI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbcQT8Oz_yI Perspective Wall https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYUZbrWtCZg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYUZbrWtCZg Table Lens https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWqTrRAC52U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWqTrRAC52U

zcw100 4y ago
I've always liked walrus https://www.caida.org/catalog/software/walrus/ https://www.caida.org/catalog/software/walrus/
kossTKR 4y ago
Very intersting! Thanks for the compilation. I feel like the current state of UX design is an absolute catastrophe, and the examples you just provided makes it clear why; modern UX design, besides being devoid of science and curiosity about how humans actually navigate the world, completely ignores 3d space and any form of graphical representations, instead serving up a minimum amount of data in white space hell with fragmented jump cuts - instead of a natural map based layout that have visible relationships - it seems that even the old school sitemap or the sitepath has been thrown in the dumpster now, instead constantly making the user unsure of "where they are" in cyberspace, where they can go and where they came from. I'm sure even pretty standard desktop interfaces would be way faster to navigate if you zoomed in and out on folder "territories on a map" or tree navigation with paths that stayed for while after you used them, or knew "where they were" instead of GUI traversal or the command line that takes way too long because you have to go via the correct path, and forget the correct path because everything is "hidden" and dont have any landmarks around you that can point in the right direction ala. oh the "3 tree" that's north of the "4 tree". And search is still very rarely good enough to work as an alternative, i feel like 95% of users always forget "where" something is in an app because it's hidden multiple layers down - page/ function search combined with a dynamic treeview could work though, but now one seems to implement that.
bvrmn 4y ago
UI from the past tried to solve false UX problem. How to present to user a big amount of information they can look (literally) through. At the end filters and search were the answer.
- anigbrowl 4y ago
  They are the answer for when you want to find one specific element. They're useless when you want to know about the dynamics of a system.
  - bvrmn 4y ago
    > They're useless when you want to know about the dynamics of a system. Generic UI experiments don't try to solve "dynamics of a system". Current best answer: interactive notebooks with first hand facilities to query, transform and visualize data.
    - anigbrowl 4y ago
      I build such notebooks and an important part of that is figuring out what's interesting about the data in the first place, because it's not always obvious what you want to measure. If you look into social media analysis, for example, there are a great many different approaches being developed and documented in academic papers and codebases, but little consensus on exactly what to measure and how. Lots of work was done on follower/friend relationships only for those to be subsequently discounted in favor of behavioral patterns. Of course, the fact that the mechanics of social media platforms are opaque boxes and are competitively manipulated for a variety of purposes complicates things further.
- Veuxdo 4y ago
  Here's another approach: making elements selectable and showing them in multiple perspectives: https://app.ilograph.com/demo.ilograph.Stack%2520Overflow%2520Architecture%2520(2016)/Traffic https://app.ilograph.com/demo.ilograph.Stack%2520Overflow%25...
  - 4y ago
wantlotsofcurry 4y ago
I find this one particularly fascinating. Eagle Mode (navigation through zooming) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6yPQKt3mBA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6yPQKt3mBA

zcw100 4y ago

I've always liked walrus https://www.caida.org/catalog/software/walrus/ https://www.caida.org/catalog/software/walrus/

kossTKR 4y ago

Very intersting! Thanks for the compilation. I feel like the current state of UX design is an absolute catastrophe, and the examples you just provided makes it clear why; modern UX design, besides being devoid of science and curiosity about how humans actually navigate the world, completely ignores 3d space and any form of graphical representations, instead serving up a minimum amount of data in white space hell with fragmented jump cuts - instead of a natural map based layout that have visible relationships - it seems that even the old school sitemap or the sitepath has been thrown in the dumpster now, instead constantly making the user unsure of "where they are" in cyberspace, where they can go and where they came from. I'm sure even pretty standard desktop interfaces would be way faster to navigate if you zoomed in and out on folder "territories on a map" or tree navigation with paths that stayed for while after you used them, or knew "where they were" instead of GUI traversal or the command line that takes way too long because you have to go via the correct path, and forget the correct path because everything is "hidden" and dont have any landmarks around you that can point in the right direction ala. oh the "3 tree" that's north of the "4 tree". And search is still very rarely good enough to work as an alternative, i feel like 95% of users always forget "where" something is in an app because it's hidden multiple layers down - page/ function search combined with a dynamic treeview could work though, but now one seems to implement that.

bvrmn 4y ago

UI from the past tried to solve false UX problem. How to present to user a big amount of information they can look (literally) through. At the end filters and search were the answer.

anigbrowl 4y ago
They are the answer for when you want to find one specific element. They're useless when you want to know about the dynamics of a system.
- bvrmn 4y ago
  > They're useless when you want to know about the dynamics of a system. Generic UI experiments don't try to solve "dynamics of a system". Current best answer: interactive notebooks with first hand facilities to query, transform and visualize data.
  - anigbrowl 4y ago
    I build such notebooks and an important part of that is figuring out what's interesting about the data in the first place, because it's not always obvious what you want to measure. If you look into social media analysis, for example, there are a great many different approaches being developed and documented in academic papers and codebases, but little consensus on exactly what to measure and how. Lots of work was done on follower/friend relationships only for those to be subsequently discounted in favor of behavioral patterns. Of course, the fact that the mechanics of social media platforms are opaque boxes and are competitively manipulated for a variety of purposes complicates things further.
Veuxdo 4y ago
Here's another approach: making elements selectable and showing them in multiple perspectives: https://app.ilograph.com/demo.ilograph.Stack%2520Overflow%2520Architecture%2520(2016)/Traffic https://app.ilograph.com/demo.ilograph.Stack%2520Overflow%25...
- 4y ago

wantlotsofcurry 4y ago

I find this one particularly fascinating. Eagle Mode (navigation through zooming) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6yPQKt3mBA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6yPQKt3mBA