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We need a tournament that allows for engines. That way the humans are merely avatars of NNs, and may the best engine win. This may also uncover lots of useful i
by nebulousthree 4y ago
We need a tournament that allows for engines. That way the humans are merely avatars of NNs, and may the best engine win. This may also uncover lots of useful insight for the "all-natural" human tournaments.
- _the_inflator 4y agoHow would this solve the problem of cheating? What is "the best engine"? An Engine requires rules as well. Cheating is always involved when there are rules. That's why it is called cheating. The idea of professional cheating is not to tell anyone about it. That's why undetected case are usually higher.
- sgjohnson 4y ago> An Engine requires rules as well. Yes, the basic rules of chess.
- planede 4y agoIf that's the only rule, it can quickly become "who can spend more on compute on a single game" championship. Not very interesting.
- DiogenesKynikos 4y agoThere's a very well known engine tournament called TCEC. For that tournament, all the engines run on the same hardware. The teams submit their binaries to the organizers beforehand, and the organizers run them on the tournament hardware. There are some questions beforehand about what hardware to use (for example, some engines use GPUs and others don't), but after that is settled, the tournament is run in a fair way, hardware-wise.
- sgjohnson 4y ago> We need a tournament that allows for engines. We do. It's called the World Computer Chess Championship https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Computer_Chess_Championship https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Computer_Chess_Champions...
- avyjit 4y agoAnd also the Top Chess Engine Championship (TCEC)