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Of course, all the to-do about alternative meats overlooks another dietary option, one with the lowest environmental footprint of all: Simply eat less meat and

Of course, all the to-do about alternative meats overlooks another dietary option, one with the lowest environmental footprint of all: Simply eat less meat and more beans, grains and vegetables. The additional processing involved in plant-based meats means that they generate 4.6 times more greenhouse gas than beans, and seven times more than peas, per unit of protein It's sad to me that "western" cooking is so focused on meat as the centerpiece to cooking. When I first went vegan, trying to replicate meat centric dishes I grew up on with plant-based substitutions always lead to a disappointing meal. The key to good plant-based cooking is exploring the space of possible dishes that never included meat or animals products to begin with. Instead focusing on distinct flavors and textures provided by plants and exploring there instead.

hedora 4y ago
I've found fake chicken is pretty good for curries, etc. However, I mostly just care about environmental footprint, and chicken is already pretty good on that front.
- dieselgate 4y ago
  Curry and fake chicken sounds very good right now. Have been big on seitan/tofu katsu plate lunches recently
jfim 4y ago
> It's sad to me that "western" cooking is so focused on meat as the centerpiece to cooking. I wonder if that's for historical reasons. I'd assume that in previous centuries, only wealthy people would have the means to afford getting a cook that would be able to pass on their recipes in written form. As such, the recipes that survived would be the ones that would have access to expensive ingredients like meat and spices. At least on the French side of things, Carême and Escoffier are very influential in classical French cuisine, and their audience was wealthy people, not commoners.
- codeflow2202 4y ago
  You are supposing that recipes were passed down through books which is totally false. They were passed down in families and communities and were based to what was available at the time. Meat is more prevalent in recipes coming from regions where it was more available. Some other places have instead a fish based diet. In any way animal based food has always been preferred by every culture that didn't avoid it for religious reasons. Most cultures who have a plant based diet come from a recent past of extreme poverty and food deprivation. EDIT: Of course as soon as meat got available, recipes that were before only affordable by a small circle, got picked up by a larger share of the population.

hedora 4y ago

I've found fake chicken is pretty good for curries, etc. However, I mostly just care about environmental footprint, and chicken is already pretty good on that front.

dieselgate 4y ago
Curry and fake chicken sounds very good right now. Have been big on seitan/tofu katsu plate lunches recently

jfim 4y ago

> It's sad to me that "western" cooking is so focused on meat as the centerpiece to cooking. I wonder if that's for historical reasons. I'd assume that in previous centuries, only wealthy people would have the means to afford getting a cook that would be able to pass on their recipes in written form. As such, the recipes that survived would be the ones that would have access to expensive ingredients like meat and spices. At least on the French side of things, Carême and Escoffier are very influential in classical French cuisine, and their audience was wealthy people, not commoners.

codeflow2202 4y ago
You are supposing that recipes were passed down through books which is totally false. They were passed down in families and communities and were based to what was available at the time. Meat is more prevalent in recipes coming from regions where it was more available. Some other places have instead a fish based diet. In any way animal based food has always been preferred by every culture that didn't avoid it for religious reasons. Most cultures who have a plant based diet come from a recent past of extreme poverty and food deprivation. EDIT: Of course as soon as meat got available, recipes that were before only affordable by a small circle, got picked up by a larger share of the population.