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I can play a few Megadeth riffs and I've written two very shitty songs. This does not make me a musician or a songwriter. It makes me a dude who can create no

by crikli 15y ago

I can play a few Megadeth riffs and I've written two very shitty songs. This does not make me a musician or a songwriter. It makes me a dude who can create noises that resemble music. The OP groks the basics and has learned how to use Django. This does not make him a programmer. It makes him a dude who can create code that resembles a program.

digitist 15y ago
Perfect analogy for this asinine, laughable post. The author is a hobbyist, not a programmer: would anyone here actually trust or hire this guy with his "1000 hours" of mostly semantic knowledge to develop a real world application? I think we should incite him to build and submit a production application for community review--perhaps he can develop it in ~1 week.
Mvandenbergh 15y ago
Sure, but if you were currently paid to make music then I think people would consider you a musician. You might be a shitty musician, an inexperienced musician, or whatever, but if you actually made your living doing it then I don't think that people would begrudge you the title.
- bubbleburst 15y ago
  > ... but if you actually made your living doing Wait till all the share prices drop to 0. Remember the punk days ? Every dumb-ass who could play, played. How many of them are still playing ?
- phektus 15y ago
  People would say that he's more of an entertainer than a musician. This sort of debate also occurs in musician circles.
Fliko 15y ago
A musician is someone who can communicate to other people via musical instruments. You are a musician, you just might not be a very good one. Similarly a songwriter is someone who creates songs, so you are a songwriter, you just might not be a good one.
- crikli 15y ago
  The only thing that I can really communicate via a musical instrument is that it's a good thing I'm a programmer.
  - Fliko 15y ago
    Hahaha, yeah that's why you aren't a very good musician yet. I think it's important to make a distinction though because it removes forms of elitism and encourages a friendly environment. People don't learn from "You can't play Flight of the Bumblebee on guitar therefore you aren't a real musician.", rather they learn from observing and participating.

by crikli 15y ago

digitist 15y ago

Perfect analogy for this asinine, laughable post. The author is a hobbyist, not a programmer: would anyone here actually trust or hire this guy with his "1000 hours" of mostly semantic knowledge to develop a real world application? I think we should incite him to build and submit a production application for community review--perhaps he can develop it in ~1 week.

Mvandenbergh 15y ago

Sure, but if you were currently paid to make music then I think people would consider you a musician. You might be a shitty musician, an inexperienced musician, or whatever, but if you actually made your living doing it then I don't think that people would begrudge you the title.

bubbleburst 15y ago
> ... but if you actually made your living doing Wait till all the share prices drop to 0. Remember the punk days ? Every dumb-ass who could play, played. How many of them are still playing ?
phektus 15y ago
People would say that he's more of an entertainer than a musician. This sort of debate also occurs in musician circles.

Fliko 15y ago

A musician is someone who can communicate to other people via musical instruments. You are a musician, you just might not be a very good one. Similarly a songwriter is someone who creates songs, so you are a songwriter, you just might not be a good one.

crikli 15y ago
The only thing that I can really communicate via a musical instrument is that it's a good thing I'm a programmer.
- Fliko 15y ago
  Hahaha, yeah that's why you aren't a very good musician yet. I think it's important to make a distinction though because it removes forms of elitism and encourages a friendly environment. People don't learn from "You can't play Flight of the Bumblebee on guitar therefore you aren't a real musician.", rather they learn from observing and participating.