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>Cloudflare isn’t censoring Kiwi Farms It is not really CF, so much as it's the collective action of many internet monopolies. The content they are hosting is
by cowtools 4y ago
>Cloudflare isn’t censoring Kiwi Farms
It is not really CF, so much as it's the collective action of many internet monopolies. The content they are hosting is legal to the extent of US law, and no one is allowing them to host it.
>It causes people to be afraid to post publicly online, for fear of malicious people stalking them
When someone is publishing their personal information online, is it really stalking to republish that information? It is almost impossible to prevent such a thing from occuring. Either an individual is a public figure or a private figure. If someone (say, a politician or celebrity) chooses to become a public figure, then they should be held under the scrutiny of the public eye and they should be held accountable for their actions. If someone is a private figure, they should be responsible for securing their own privacy on the internet.
I think what we have on the current internet is a situation where a lot of internet celebrities (including KF's own operator) want all of the benefits of being a para-social public figure with none of the responsibilities of maintaining a public image that stands up to scrutiny.
In the case of the NES emulator developer who allegedly committed suicide, the KF had not published this person's actual real-life identity. They could have merely started a new pseudonym, or operated more privately under the current pseudonym, or ignored the KF altogether. The so-called "harrasement" and "doxxing" of this person is completely inconsequential to their actual life outside of the internet. You would not infer any more information on this guy from his KF "dox" as you would infer from almost any pseudo-anonymous furry on any social media website. But instead, this figure tried to leverage their own suicide threat to take down the kiwifarms website and extort them by offering money in exchange for their article to be taken down. In the end, their suicide remains completely unconfirmed apart from a single, unbacked testimonial.
- jakelazaroff 4y agoYou’re misrepresenting what happened. Keffals didn’t post the address of the hotel she stayed at after being swatted, for example. Kiwi Farms found it from the bedsheets in the picture she posted [0]. That is stalking. Then they sent her pizzas at that hotel, which is harassment. [0] https://twitter.com/keffals/status/1560065956923297793 https://twitter.com/keffals/status/1560065956923297793
- stonogo 4y agoSo anyone who is an ARIN representative deserves harassment? Anyone who holds an FCC license? Anyone who owns any land? All three of these effectively put your name and address into public knowledge. Your definition of "public figure" needs work, because at the moment it's frankly ridiculous.
- MandieD 4y agoThe GP's attitude is why a lot of people are afraid of trying amateur radio: when you apply for a license in the US, your address is published. It doesn't have to be your home address and can be a post box, but you do have to be able to receive mail there. When you apply for your license in Germany, you can elect to not have your home and secondary station addresses published. While looking up potential callsigns for my application, I noticed that about half of the female-looking names chose not to publish their addresses. I wonder how many women and other vulnerable people are staying away from amateur radio in the US because they can't take the risk of publicly revealing any sort of address they can receive mail at.