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You know the site was public when it was still up, right? Look at the evidence Keffals collected, for example: https://twitter.com/keffals/status/15603752677213

You know the site was public when it was still up, right? Look at the evidence Keffals collected, for example: https://twitter.com/keffals/status/1560375267721363456 https://twitter.com/keffals/status/1560375267721363456

Cyberdog 4y ago
Oh, yes, well, I know I said you couldn't trust Business Insider, but if no less a credible and unbiased authority as Keffals says something, then I must humbly stand corrected.
- jakelazaroff 4y ago
  That link is full of screenshots of Kiwi Farms. Where exactly are the goalposts here?
  - Cyberdog 4y ago
    The goalposts are a post on KF which advocates violence or doxing, was not mocked or deleted, and is still currently on KF - so screenshots of posts taken before they were mocked and/or deleted do not count (and it's quite possible any such screenshots in Keffals' possession were posted by Keffals or another affiliate and then snapped before they were mocked and/or deleted anyway). Again, if this is such frequent behavior, you should be able to fire up a Tor browser, go to the site, and drop several links to such posts right now.
    - croon 4y ago
      Make a snapchat like site where only terrorists post, and posts are erased after 2 hours. No harm no foul, since nothing is permanent?
      - Cyberdog 4y ago
        Not sure where you're going with this since KF doesn't work this way.
        croon 4y ago
        Your argument was that since bad posts were eventually removed, the site itself was not advocating those things, sidestepping the issue of which people are drawn there and what the main use of the site is.
    - jakelazaroff 4y ago
      I see — the goalposts don’t exist. If there’s an eyewitness account, they could be lying. If there’s a screenshot of a deleted post, it could be fabricated. If it’s an active post, well, how do we know it’s not a fake post by someone trying to make Kiwi Farms look bad?
philippejara 4y ago
Can you link to where there was evidence of said swatting? the one folder specifically named "toronto swatting info" has literally nothing regarding swatting, just regarding a dox. You even have in the document made by herself people explicitly being against it, to the point of saying people who do it should kill themselves[0]. [0]:https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Lt1qmYCFKonDaIVe7yvkZQnBc0mzlhkF/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Lt1qmYCFKonDaIVe7yvkZQnBc0m...
- jakelazaroff 4y ago
  Here’s the ominous disclaimer “I disavow any actions taken with this information in advance” in a post doxxing Keffals where she was eventually swatted: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/mobile/folders/1rwQ_3hMKm1ZLTVTEKeiunQ3_uTAvJdf6/13wzFbaMHM6d-kvsPg2JXuAX5e_Je_AFC?usp=sharing&sort=13&direction=a https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/mobile/folders/1rwQ_3hMKm... Here’s someone doxxing and saying to “just send him a Doordash”: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/mobile/folders/1rwQ_3hMKm1ZLTVTEKeiunQ3_uTAvJdf6/13wzFbaMHM6d-kvsPg2JXuAX5e_Je_AFC?usp=sharing&sort=13&direction=a https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/mobile/folders/1rwQ_3hMKm... Here’s someone being glib about “inconvenient but polite visits from law enforcement”: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/mobile/folders/1rwQ_3hMKm1ZLTVTEKeiunQ3_uTAvJdf6/1Ac9K73nH83SG1vlVj2XDvUvFia_t9LR7?usp=sharing&sort=13&direction=a https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/mobile/folders/1rwQ_3hMKm... Here’s someone saying he’d have “danced for joy” if London cops had shot Keffals: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/mobile/folders/1rwQ_3hMKm1ZLTVTEKeiunQ3_uTAvJdf6/1Ac9K73nH83SG1vlVj2XDvUvFia_t9LR7?usp=sharing&sort=13&direction=a https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/mobile/folders/1rwQ_3hMKm... Is this person talking about swatting in general, or specifically by Kiwi Farms? https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/mobile/folders/1rwQ_3hMKm1ZLTVTEKeiunQ3_uTAvJdf6/1Ac9K73nH83SG1vlVj2XDvUvFia_t9LR7?usp=sharing&sort=13&direction=a https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/mobile/folders/1rwQ_3hMKm... More lamenting the SWAT officers didn’t kill Keffals: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/mobile/folders/1rwQ_3hMKm1ZLTVTEKeiunQ3_uTAvJdf6/1Ac9K73nH83SG1vlVj2XDvUvFia_t9LR7?usp=sharing&sort=13&direction=a https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/mobile/folders/1rwQ_3hMKm...
  - philippejara 4y ago
    Just a heads up, you need to share the images from the google drive thru the elipses in the top right of the picture to link them, as it stands all those links go to the folders. > Here’s the ominous disclaimer “I disavow any actions taken with this information in advance” in a post doxxing Keffals where she was eventually swatted. If we are to assume that posting a dox is evidence for swatting sure, but if we don't that is not more ominous than anything else that could've been said. >Here’s someone being glib about “inconvenient but polite visits from law enforcement”: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/mobile/folders/1rwQ_3hMKm https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/mobile/folders/1rwQ_3hMKm... I assume this is violent threat #24[0]? this was after the swatting happened and is referring to the statement from the police[1] that clarified they just knocked on the door to come in and were let in, and didn't really deadname her in the manner that was claimed, contrary to her recollection of events. I quote the statement from the police department: " Officers did not conduct what is sometimes referred to as a “dynamic entry” into Ms. Sorrenti’s residence. Rather, they knocked on the door, announced themselves as police officers, and occupants answered. Any attempt by uninvolved third parties to suggest otherwise is inaccurate and irresponsible. " It wasn't being glib about it from my point of view All others by your description, just show people there being nasty, which seems to be par for the curse, but nothing pointing towards doing the swatting. [0]: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vgqW69SZn-yfjrLQKBnJ8XudEA4 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vgqW69SZn-yfjrLQKBnJ8XudEA4... [1]: https://www.londonpolice.ca/en/news/statement-from-police-ch https://www.londonpolice.ca/en/news/statement-from-police-ch...

Cyberdog 4y ago

Oh, yes, well, I know I said you couldn't trust Business Insider, but if no less a credible and unbiased authority as Keffals says something, then I must humbly stand corrected.

jakelazaroff 4y ago
That link is full of screenshots of Kiwi Farms. Where exactly are the goalposts here?
- Cyberdog 4y ago
  The goalposts are a post on KF which advocates violence or doxing, was not mocked or deleted, and is still currently on KF - so screenshots of posts taken before they were mocked and/or deleted do not count (and it's quite possible any such screenshots in Keffals' possession were posted by Keffals or another affiliate and then snapped before they were mocked and/or deleted anyway). Again, if this is such frequent behavior, you should be able to fire up a Tor browser, go to the site, and drop several links to such posts right now.
  - croon 4y ago
    Make a snapchat like site where only terrorists post, and posts are erased after 2 hours. No harm no foul, since nothing is permanent?
    - Cyberdog 4y ago
      Not sure where you're going with this since KF doesn't work this way.
      - croon 4y ago
        Your argument was that since bad posts were eventually removed, the site itself was not advocating those things, sidestepping the issue of which people are drawn there and what the main use of the site is.
  - jakelazaroff 4y ago
    I see — the goalposts don’t exist. If there’s an eyewitness account, they could be lying. If there’s a screenshot of a deleted post, it could be fabricated. If it’s an active post, well, how do we know it’s not a fake post by someone trying to make Kiwi Farms look bad?

philippejara 4y ago

Can you link to where there was evidence of said swatting? the one folder specifically named "toronto swatting info" has literally nothing regarding swatting, just regarding a dox. You even have in the document made by herself people explicitly being against it, to the point of saying people who do it should kill themselves[0]. [0]:https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Lt1qmYCFKonDaIVe7yvkZQnBc0mzlhkF/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Lt1qmYCFKonDaIVe7yvkZQnBc0m...

jakelazaroff 4y ago
Here’s the ominous disclaimer “I disavow any actions taken with this information in advance” in a post doxxing Keffals where she was eventually swatted: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/mobile/folders/1rwQ_3hMKm1ZLTVTEKeiunQ3_uTAvJdf6/13wzFbaMHM6d-kvsPg2JXuAX5e_Je_AFC?usp=sharing&sort=13&direction=a https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/mobile/folders/1rwQ_3hMKm... Here’s someone doxxing and saying to “just send him a Doordash”: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/mobile/folders/1rwQ_3hMKm1ZLTVTEKeiunQ3_uTAvJdf6/13wzFbaMHM6d-kvsPg2JXuAX5e_Je_AFC?usp=sharing&sort=13&direction=a https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/mobile/folders/1rwQ_3hMKm... Here’s someone being glib about “inconvenient but polite visits from law enforcement”: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/mobile/folders/1rwQ_3hMKm1ZLTVTEKeiunQ3_uTAvJdf6/1Ac9K73nH83SG1vlVj2XDvUvFia_t9LR7?usp=sharing&sort=13&direction=a https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/mobile/folders/1rwQ_3hMKm... Here’s someone saying he’d have “danced for joy” if London cops had shot Keffals: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/mobile/folders/1rwQ_3hMKm1ZLTVTEKeiunQ3_uTAvJdf6/1Ac9K73nH83SG1vlVj2XDvUvFia_t9LR7?usp=sharing&sort=13&direction=a https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/mobile/folders/1rwQ_3hMKm... Is this person talking about swatting in general, or specifically by Kiwi Farms? https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/mobile/folders/1rwQ_3hMKm1ZLTVTEKeiunQ3_uTAvJdf6/1Ac9K73nH83SG1vlVj2XDvUvFia_t9LR7?usp=sharing&sort=13&direction=a https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/mobile/folders/1rwQ_3hMKm... More lamenting the SWAT officers didn’t kill Keffals: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/mobile/folders/1rwQ_3hMKm1ZLTVTEKeiunQ3_uTAvJdf6/1Ac9K73nH83SG1vlVj2XDvUvFia_t9LR7?usp=sharing&sort=13&direction=a https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/mobile/folders/1rwQ_3hMKm...
- philippejara 4y ago
  Just a heads up, you need to share the images from the google drive thru the elipses in the top right of the picture to link them, as it stands all those links go to the folders. > Here’s the ominous disclaimer “I disavow any actions taken with this information in advance” in a post doxxing Keffals where she was eventually swatted. If we are to assume that posting a dox is evidence for swatting sure, but if we don't that is not more ominous than anything else that could've been said. >Here’s someone being glib about “inconvenient but polite visits from law enforcement”: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/mobile/folders/1rwQ_3hMKm https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/mobile/folders/1rwQ_3hMKm... I assume this is violent threat #24[0]? this was after the swatting happened and is referring to the statement from the police[1] that clarified they just knocked on the door to come in and were let in, and didn't really deadname her in the manner that was claimed, contrary to her recollection of events. I quote the statement from the police department: " Officers did not conduct what is sometimes referred to as a “dynamic entry” into Ms. Sorrenti’s residence. Rather, they knocked on the door, announced themselves as police officers, and occupants answered. Any attempt by uninvolved third parties to suggest otherwise is inaccurate and irresponsible. " It wasn't being glib about it from my point of view All others by your description, just show people there being nasty, which seems to be par for the curse, but nothing pointing towards doing the swatting. [0]: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vgqW69SZn-yfjrLQKBnJ8XudEA4 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vgqW69SZn-yfjrLQKBnJ8XudEA4... [1]: https://www.londonpolice.ca/en/news/statement-from-police-ch https://www.londonpolice.ca/en/news/statement-from-police-ch...