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The format of the article, and it's unwillingless to go to the point made me quit reading half way. Even in reader mode the flow of reading is interrupted every

The format of the article, and it's unwillingless to go to the point made me quit reading half way. Even in reader mode the flow of reading is interrupted every 2 lines by a large useless image or some snarky comment from the author. Too bad, it's an interesting topic.

xena 4y ago
Author here. Would my raw talk script without any of the visual aids I put in the talk be better here?
- jjjjoe 4y ago
  Absolutely! I suspect it would also alleviate a couple of headscratchers like where you spelled out "underscore" when setting a breakpoint.
  - xena 4y ago
    Looks like I missed a sed command or two. I usually write out "underscore" in the script so I read it literally during recording: https://i.imgur.com/j3RdHA5.png https://i.imgur.com/j3RdHA5.png I write out punctuation like underscore so that I know that is what I am literally saying to the camera. I usually edit that out. Apparently I missed out on that this time. Oops! Sorry. I'll put that on the checklist for next time (half considering making tests fail if I forget to do it).
- BiteCode_dev 4y ago
  Yes, or just an option to hide the slides.
  - xena 4y ago
    Here: https://gist.github.com/Xe/400756b7d93f40b0b7ec48c65b7d066d https://gist.github.com/Xe/400756b7d93f40b0b7ec48c65b7d066d I'll work on something more cohesive for the next talk. Sorry about this!
    - skissane 4y ago
      At least with this I can work out what your primary points are. The most important takeaway seems to be that OpenSSH sshd doesn't really use PAM unless you enable "ChallengeResponseAuth" config option, so if you want your custom PAM module to work with sshd, you need to turn that on. Another important point you make is, on Ubuntu, you need to download the debug symbol packages for systems libraries if you want gdb to give you meaningful backtraces. The suggestion of putting a breakpoint on dlsym also seems helpful. This meme-laden presentation style, I seem totally incapable of consuming or producing it, and I don't really get it. I don't know if it is a generational thing or something.
    - BiteCode_dev 4y ago
      Thanks, now I could read it entirely.
  - riskable 4y ago
    For reference, I liked your format. It was different and fun. Every highly technical conference would be infinitely more fun if all speakers were given an avatar like that haha. I especially loved the graphic with Anya pointing at Anya pointing at Anya :thumbsup: . It was obvious you were going for an entertainment format rather than merely cramming as much information in as tight a space as possible (which is typical for 'conf talks). Hacker News geeks probably aren't the ideal judges for that sort of thing. As a member of this group most of us have forgotten what it means to "not be super busy" all the time and being "forced" to watch something highly technical slowed down into an entertainment-focused story telling format can feel wrong and a little frustrating. Just know that there's at least a few people out there that appreciated it :)
- omginternets 4y ago
  Is there a video of the presentation somewhere? That would be ideal! Thanks
  - xena 4y ago
    The YouTube video is embedded in the page. https://youtu.be/BleS-MHLn7s https://youtu.be/BleS-MHLn7s
    - omginternets 4y ago
      d’oh! Thanks!
- smitty1e 4y ago
  Outstanding, highly readable work. Double props for the Jenna Fischer photo. One suggestion might be putting hyperlinks in as either end notes or as anchor tags for those interested in chasing rabbits.
- justsomehnguy 4y ago
  > the visual aids Of all your pictures the actual useful ones are three: Drawbacks of PAM Lessons Learned Credits Presentation != blog post. Different formats. I could read that only after sticking the browser to the side of the screen with 25% width and reader mode. Reading your post on the desktop is like trying to watch a 10-minute episode interrupted for an ad every 10 seconds. Perhaps you can split your 'visual aids' to 'essential' (liek those three I listed up there) and 'non-essential', which could be skipped in the blog post.
billyhoffman 4y ago
It's a presentation in blog form. The images are the slides from presentation, the text is what Xe says. Perhaps you don't like this style of presentation? Excellent content.
adioe3 4y ago
On the other hand, I found the slides wildly entertaining. To each his own.

xena 4y ago

Author here. Would my raw talk script without any of the visual aids I put in the talk be better here?

jjjjoe 4y ago
Absolutely! I suspect it would also alleviate a couple of headscratchers like where you spelled out "underscore" when setting a breakpoint.
- xena 4y ago
  Looks like I missed a sed command or two. I usually write out "underscore" in the script so I read it literally during recording: https://i.imgur.com/j3RdHA5.png https://i.imgur.com/j3RdHA5.png I write out punctuation like underscore so that I know that is what I am literally saying to the camera. I usually edit that out. Apparently I missed out on that this time. Oops! Sorry. I'll put that on the checklist for next time (half considering making tests fail if I forget to do it).
BiteCode_dev 4y ago
Yes, or just an option to hide the slides.
- xena 4y ago
  Here: https://gist.github.com/Xe/400756b7d93f40b0b7ec48c65b7d066d https://gist.github.com/Xe/400756b7d93f40b0b7ec48c65b7d066d I'll work on something more cohesive for the next talk. Sorry about this!
  - skissane 4y ago
    At least with this I can work out what your primary points are. The most important takeaway seems to be that OpenSSH sshd doesn't really use PAM unless you enable "ChallengeResponseAuth" config option, so if you want your custom PAM module to work with sshd, you need to turn that on. Another important point you make is, on Ubuntu, you need to download the debug symbol packages for systems libraries if you want gdb to give you meaningful backtraces. The suggestion of putting a breakpoint on dlsym also seems helpful. This meme-laden presentation style, I seem totally incapable of consuming or producing it, and I don't really get it. I don't know if it is a generational thing or something.
  - BiteCode_dev 4y ago
    Thanks, now I could read it entirely.
- riskable 4y ago
  For reference, I liked your format. It was different and fun. Every highly technical conference would be infinitely more fun if all speakers were given an avatar like that haha. I especially loved the graphic with Anya pointing at Anya pointing at Anya :thumbsup: . It was obvious you were going for an entertainment format rather than merely cramming as much information in as tight a space as possible (which is typical for 'conf talks). Hacker News geeks probably aren't the ideal judges for that sort of thing. As a member of this group most of us have forgotten what it means to "not be super busy" all the time and being "forced" to watch something highly technical slowed down into an entertainment-focused story telling format can feel wrong and a little frustrating. Just know that there's at least a few people out there that appreciated it :)
omginternets 4y ago
Is there a video of the presentation somewhere? That would be ideal! Thanks
- xena 4y ago
  The YouTube video is embedded in the page. https://youtu.be/BleS-MHLn7s https://youtu.be/BleS-MHLn7s
  - omginternets 4y ago
    d’oh! Thanks!
smitty1e 4y ago
Outstanding, highly readable work. Double props for the Jenna Fischer photo. One suggestion might be putting hyperlinks in as either end notes or as anchor tags for those interested in chasing rabbits.
justsomehnguy 4y ago
> the visual aids Of all your pictures the actual useful ones are three: Drawbacks of PAM Lessons Learned Credits Presentation != blog post. Different formats. I could read that only after sticking the browser to the side of the screen with 25% width and reader mode. Reading your post on the desktop is like trying to watch a 10-minute episode interrupted for an ad every 10 seconds. Perhaps you can split your 'visual aids' to 'essential' (liek those three I listed up there) and 'non-essential', which could be skipped in the blog post.

billyhoffman 4y ago

It's a presentation in blog form. The images are the slides from presentation, the text is what Xe says. Perhaps you don't like this style of presentation? Excellent content.

adioe3 4y ago

On the other hand, I found the slides wildly entertaining. To each his own.