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"Beautiful woman" gives you nudity roughly 90% of the time. In a recent open office hours, they basically said that without the filters, everything quickly bec

"Beautiful woman" gives you nudity roughly 90% of the time. In a recent open office hours, they basically said that without the filters, everything quickly becomes overrun with either gore or things that verge on porn, because it only takes a small fraction users to flood every available space. In the meantime, they've watched the gender demographics on periodic user surveys tilt dramatically toward men more recently, and they're concerned this might be one factor in that. There are a billion different ways to generate porn images, and billions of porn images already existing. They'd rather SD not be a source of more.

yreg 4y ago
>"Beautiful woman" gives you nudity roughly 90% of the time. This is simply not factual. I've just tried `Beautiful woman` 64 times on Stable Diffusion v1.4: - 0 results were fully nude - 8 results were topless and sexually explicit (I counted pictures without nipples as well) - 2 results were topless with breasts covered by hands in a facebook friendly way 12.5% is very far from 90%. Even then, what kind of a prompt is that anyway? The only attribute you give to the subject is sexualizing her. More descriptive prompts would contain even less nudity. >They'd rather SD not be a source of more. This isn't what their founder says[0]. Anyway it doesn't matter since SD already released with an easy to disable filter. We are not talking about whether SD should include an optional filter (I agree it should), but whether other apps built on top of it should have a non-optional filter. [0] - https://twitter.com/EMostaque/status/1562200385401499650 https://twitter.com/EMostaque/status/1562200385401499650
- pwinnski 4y ago
  My bad! I mixed up Stable Diffusion and Midjourney in my head. MJ has the open office hours and is worried about gore and porn and so on, not Stable Diffusion.
wswope 4y ago
YMMV - I’ve been fuzzing permutations of various prompt phrases to come up with some art for a female D&D character. “Temptress”, “seductress”, “dominatrix”, and “femme fatale” are on my list of 22 phrases, and I’m only getting ~30% NSFW outputs - pretty much all of which are just weirdly suggestive curves in random places, vaguely phallic silhouettes, and artsy breast shapes. Probably not stuff that should be shown to kids, but in the >1k samples I’ve run so far, I’ve yet to see anything jarring.
numpad0 4y ago
Are those surveys self-reported/verified or algorithmic assumptions? I feel like a lot of algorithms and criticisms assume default/normal/non-characteristic person as men, and are wrong because of that.
- pwinnski 4y ago
  From the office hours, it's a self-reported quarterly survey, IIRC. So they're not sure how much of the growing skew is due to the demographics of Discord itself, how much is real, etc.

yreg 4y ago

>"Beautiful woman" gives you nudity roughly 90% of the time. This is simply not factual. I've just tried `Beautiful woman` 64 times on Stable Diffusion v1.4: - 0 results were fully nude - 8 results were topless and sexually explicit (I counted pictures without nipples as well) - 2 results were topless with breasts covered by hands in a facebook friendly way 12.5% is very far from 90%. Even then, what kind of a prompt is that anyway? The only attribute you give to the subject is sexualizing her. More descriptive prompts would contain even less nudity. >They'd rather SD not be a source of more. This isn't what their founder says[0]. Anyway it doesn't matter since SD already released with an easy to disable filter. We are not talking about whether SD should include an optional filter (I agree it should), but whether other apps built on top of it should have a non-optional filter. [0] - https://twitter.com/EMostaque/status/1562200385401499650 https://twitter.com/EMostaque/status/1562200385401499650

pwinnski 4y ago
My bad! I mixed up Stable Diffusion and Midjourney in my head. MJ has the open office hours and is worried about gore and porn and so on, not Stable Diffusion.

wswope 4y ago

YMMV - I’ve been fuzzing permutations of various prompt phrases to come up with some art for a female D&D character. “Temptress”, “seductress”, “dominatrix”, and “femme fatale” are on my list of 22 phrases, and I’m only getting ~30% NSFW outputs - pretty much all of which are just weirdly suggestive curves in random places, vaguely phallic silhouettes, and artsy breast shapes. Probably not stuff that should be shown to kids, but in the >1k samples I’ve run so far, I’ve yet to see anything jarring.

numpad0 4y ago

Are those surveys self-reported/verified or algorithmic assumptions? I feel like a lot of algorithms and criticisms assume default/normal/non-characteristic person as men, and are wrong because of that.

pwinnski 4y ago
From the office hours, it's a self-reported quarterly survey, IIRC. So they're not sure how much of the growing skew is due to the demographics of Discord itself, how much is real, etc.