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Alternatively, organizing crime on discord and telegram is hard enough to detect, monitor, and squash, and provides enough improvement to outcomes and profits,
by anonporridge 4y ago
Alternatively, organizing crime on discord and telegram is hard enough to detect, monitor, and squash, and provides enough improvement to outcomes and profits, that it's shining a light on how incompetent our law enforcement actually is at policing this kind of organization, and that more sophisticated technologies like Tor and crypto oriented dark net markets aren't strictly necessary.
- bioemerl 4y agoTelegram I can understand, but discord is a centralized platform that doesn't encrypt your messages. I'm astounded the authorities don't have a direct ability to just search their database at this point.
- anonporridge 4y agoI'm sure they do, but the shear amount of data surely must make it incredibly difficult to accurately detect. And worse, being a platform for gamers, the conversation of real world criminals might be very difficult to differentiate from regular gamer talk. Just think how many groups are constantly chatting about GTA V. They're literally talking about the crimes they're committing (in the game world). Discord might actually be the perfect place for criminals to hide their conversations in plain sight.
- littlestymaar 4y ago> I'm sure they do, but the shear amount of data surely must make it incredibly difficult to accurately detect. Except once you get one person who belong to such a group (by any conventional means) or even have one informant, then you can see where they hang out on discord (and there won't be a million of channels to scan) and now you have access to a nice topology of discord use for organized crime.
- brandall10 4y agoHow do the people interested in this type of mayhem find it? If it's out in the relative open, it shouldn't be hard to find for someone that is motivated.
- gruez 4y agoThere's even a page for this on kym, although not with "GTA V": https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/in-minecraft https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/in-minecraft
- brnt 4y agoTelegram doesn't encrypt any more than Discord: through https. Telegram offers a 1:1 e2e encryption option, but few use it, because it does not propagate to other devices.
- bioemerl 4y agoNever mind, I had confused telegram and signal.
- actually_a_dog 4y agoGranted I know most criminals are not that smart, and that's how they get caught, but you would think people intending to break the law would use E2E encryption given its availability and half a clue, yeah?
- brnt 4y agoIf you've half a clue and understand why E2E is important for communicating about crimes, you wouldn't use Telegram at all. Thank deity they're not.
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- kmeisthax 4y agoTor and crypto are sophisticated but they don't actually provide that much extra protection to criminals - as can be seen by the Silk Road prosecution. All Tor does is change where the weakest link in your opsec is.
- sealeck 4y agoTor provides good traffic obsfucation for both host and clients. I would say it's invaluable to criminals.
- andsoitis 4y ago> hard enough to detect, monitor, and squash, and provides enough improvement to outcomes and profits, that it's shining a light on how incompetent our law enforcement actually is at policing this kind of organization How many police districts use Palantir?
- sealeck 4y agoToo many.
- Schroedingersat 4y agoDon't worry. We'll have an overzealous AI enforcer that deletes everything you have on the cloud and blocks access to basic human services on a false positive soon enough.