3 ms·

The classic problem with self reporting food questionnaires is recall of the correct information. If anyone here knows accurately how many cups of ribs they had

The classic problem with self reporting food questionnaires is recall of the correct information. If anyone here knows accurately how many cups of ribs they had in the last year, (unless zero) you might as well just invent a random number. I have no idea how you would even follow someone's diet closely enough to be even 50% accurate and for how long? Until someone is dead. Nobody is doing accurate research on this because it would cost too much and consequently the "science" that is done is meaningless. Peter Attia makes some interesting suggestions on how to improve things (from David Allison's work) here [1]. [1] https://peterattiamd.com/nutritional-epidemiology-abolition-vs-defending-the-status-quo/ https://peterattiamd.com/nutritional-epidemiology-abolition-...

cryptonector 4y ago
I recently met several 'carnivores' who eat one to two pounds of meat every day, and only meat, dairy, fruit, honey, and water -- no other carbs, no sugar, no rice, no pasta, no bread, no wheat, no corn, no veggies(!) (apparently a lot of vegetables have something called "oxalates" and that's bad, though I know nothing about the topic), no alcohol, no nuts, no seeds, no seed oils, etc. They swear by it. I'd imagine that carnivores can probably estimate their red meat consumption very accurately, though I didn't ask the ones I met recently -- they were pretty sure of how much meat they eat each day, so I assume it's trivial to x365 to get "how much beef they had in the last year". Well, maybe not that trivial because some of them also have pork and chicken? https://www.google.com/search?q=carnivore+groups https://www.google.com/search?q=carnivore+groups
- jokethrowaway 4y ago
  Carnivores are a fairly recent phenomenon. The studies linking meat to health issues were done on the McDonald's and coke population. There is also zero commercial interest in pushing meat over carb filled diets. Look inside any supermarket. It's literally 95% non-meat processed food with long expiry date, an easy manufacturing process and the added benefit of keeping people addicted and hungry.

cryptonector 4y ago

I recently met several 'carnivores' who eat one to two pounds of meat every day, and only meat, dairy, fruit, honey, and water -- no other carbs, no sugar, no rice, no pasta, no bread, no wheat, no corn, no veggies(!) (apparently a lot of vegetables have something called "oxalates" and that's bad, though I know nothing about the topic), no alcohol, no nuts, no seeds, no seed oils, etc. They swear by it. I'd imagine that carnivores can probably estimate their red meat consumption very accurately, though I didn't ask the ones I met recently -- they were pretty sure of how much meat they eat each day, so I assume it's trivial to x365 to get "how much beef they had in the last year". Well, maybe not that trivial because some of them also have pork and chicken? https://www.google.com/search?q=carnivore+groups https://www.google.com/search?q=carnivore+groups

jokethrowaway 4y ago
Carnivores are a fairly recent phenomenon. The studies linking meat to health issues were done on the McDonald's and coke population. There is also zero commercial interest in pushing meat over carb filled diets. Look inside any supermarket. It's literally 95% non-meat processed food with long expiry date, an easy manufacturing process and the added benefit of keeping people addicted and hungry.