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> I didn't know about this site until yesterday. It's interesting that your takeaway in light of this knowledge is a strategy that totally misses keeping your

by tyrust 4y ago

> I didn't know about this site until yesterday. It's interesting that your takeaway in light of this knowledge is a strategy that totally misses keeping your children away from the forum responsible for three suicides [0]. [0] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiwi_Farms#Suicides_of_harassment_targets https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiwi_Farms#Suicides_of_harassm...

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richbell 4y ago
Why not both?
- tyrust 4y ago
  That's my question to the OP.
apostacy 4y ago
While it is certainly possible that Near committed suicide, there is no proof of it. Even on the linked Wikipedia article, the only evidence is a Twitter thread and a few people saying that they "spoke to the police", and nothing else. USA Today reported on a Twitter thread. They did not claim to have access to any official documents, only second hand accounts of what the police said. There would most likely have been an official record of his death. Embassies in Japan usually publish records of expat deaths. None of the confirmed expat deaths in Japan in that time window match anything like Near's description. The only reason information about his death would be blocked is due to an ongoing investigation by police. It is unlikely that the police would share information about an ongoing investigation with anyone, and if they did it would only be with family. What it boils down to is that someone on the internet heard from the Japanese police that near had killed himself because of online bullying. Just to be clear, if I were Near, I might hoax my own suicide if it hurt Kiwifarms. But I don't think there is nearly enough evidence to justify deplatforming Kiwifarms.
irthomasthomas 4y ago
Missing the point entirely. That forum was public. The discord servers, where unknown adults are advising teenagers on sexuality and DIY hormone therapy is private.
- tyrust 4y ago
  It's not really clear what your point is. Surely you aren't saying that your strategy is to allow your kids on any online site as long as it's public, but that's the only clarification you've provided here.
  - irthomasthomas 4y ago
    Have you actually read about what they where doing in that private - no parents allowed - discord server? I'd love to link you to the actual content, but I can't, because it's private. You will have to read the tweets from the owner describing it in her own words, which is in the link that is the subject of this thread.
    - tyrust 4y ago
      Sure that stuff isn't good, too. I'm just wondering what your plan is to keep your kids off of this other (public) forum that your just learned about (and ones like it), if you have one.

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richbell 4y ago

Why not both?

tyrust 4y ago
That's my question to the OP.

apostacy 4y ago

While it is certainly possible that Near committed suicide, there is no proof of it. Even on the linked Wikipedia article, the only evidence is a Twitter thread and a few people saying that they "spoke to the police", and nothing else. USA Today reported on a Twitter thread. They did not claim to have access to any official documents, only second hand accounts of what the police said. There would most likely have been an official record of his death. Embassies in Japan usually publish records of expat deaths. None of the confirmed expat deaths in Japan in that time window match anything like Near's description. The only reason information about his death would be blocked is due to an ongoing investigation by police. It is unlikely that the police would share information about an ongoing investigation with anyone, and if they did it would only be with family. What it boils down to is that someone on the internet heard from the Japanese police that near had killed himself because of online bullying. Just to be clear, if I were Near, I might hoax my own suicide if it hurt Kiwifarms. But I don't think there is nearly enough evidence to justify deplatforming Kiwifarms.

irthomasthomas 4y ago

Missing the point entirely. That forum was public. The discord servers, where unknown adults are advising teenagers on sexuality and DIY hormone therapy is private.

tyrust 4y ago
It's not really clear what your point is. Surely you aren't saying that your strategy is to allow your kids on any online site as long as it's public, but that's the only clarification you've provided here.
- irthomasthomas 4y ago
  Have you actually read about what they where doing in that private - no parents allowed - discord server? I'd love to link you to the actual content, but I can't, because it's private. You will have to read the tweets from the owner describing it in her own words, which is in the link that is the subject of this thread.
  - tyrust 4y ago
    Sure that stuff isn't good, too. I'm just wondering what your plan is to keep your kids off of this other (public) forum that your just learned about (and ones like it), if you have one.