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This exact example made me wonder how the 'bias' situation will ever be worked around (besides training the model to an individuals preexisting biases). What s
by parhamn 4y ago
This exact example made me wonder how the 'bias' situation will ever be worked around (besides training the model to an individuals preexisting biases).
What should the picture of a 'woman' on wikipedia be? Should they be clothed? In western clothing? What skin color? Age? Surely everyone imagines something slightly different when they think 'woman'.
- LudwigNagasena 4y agoYeah, for starters one should at least try to provide a coherent operational definition of “bias”.
- ben_w 4y agoAt the time of writing, it's this: https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Woman_at_Lover%27s_Bridge_Tanjung_Sepat_(cropped).jpg https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Woman_at_Lover%27s... Which is close to what I would've guessed by picking a high population density area, and a likely location and candidate for a decent portait photo on a wildly popular wiki. Still not sure why the top was edited from red to grey.
- mgdlbp 4y agoPerfect example: English Wikipedia has bikeshedded lead images of this kind ad nauseum over these two decades, with many times more text written in discussions of this than in the articles themselves. The current image for [[woman]] was chosen last year in an RfC that ended with a rare counted vote.¹ This prompted a re-debate of [[human]]² that trailed off in dissastisfaction toward the only established guideline in the area, which forbids montages. That, in turn was last affirmed by a series of debates in 2015/2016.³ ¹ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Woman/Archive_19 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Woman/Archive_19 ² https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Human/Archive_35#Argument_made_in_the_FAQ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Human/Archive_35#Argument... ³ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOS:NOETHNICGALLERIES https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOS:NOETHNICGALLERIES